重審耶穌
I'm starting my own paper. 我要出版自己的報紙。
I'll show you how it works. 我會告訴妳它是什麼樣的。
Go faster! 再快點！
Whoo! 喔！
I'll get a job. 我會有一份工作
We'll buy a house. 我們會買房子
Couple of kids. 有幾個孩子
Don't worry. I got it all worked out. 別擔心，我都計畫好了。
Ladies and gentlemen, 女士們，先生們，
please welcome the newest and youngest 請歡迎最新最年輕的
addition to the Tribune team, 新增 論壇報 隊員，
Lee Strobel Lee 史特博
It is my distinct pleasure to honor one of our own 我很榮幸地獎賞出於我們自己團隊的一員。
for his nationally acclaimed 爲他在全國廣受好評的
Ford Pinto investigative series. 福特平託 調查系列。
Lee, your work has given justice Lee，因你的工作而帶出了正義
to families across the country 給全國各地的家庭
and peeled back a corporate cover-up. 也看到了企業的內幕。
So I present you with the Len H. Small Memorial Award 所以我向你頒發Len H.小紀念獎
for community service journalism. 為你所做的社區服務新聞報導。
And congratulations on your promotion 並祝賀你的晉升
to Legal Affairs editor! 到法律事務編輯！
Based on a True Story 此片根據真實故事改編
Chicago, 1980 芝加哥， 1980
Thank you, Mr. Cook, 謝謝，庫克先生，
for the award, for the promotion. 多謝獎杯，多謝晉升
Um... mostly for the promotion. 主要是感謝晉升。
- Uh... - You're welcome. - 啊... - 別客氣。
The only way to truth is through facts. 真理的唯一途徑就是通過事實。
Facts are our greatest weapon against superstition, 事實是我們反對迷信的最大武器，
against ignorance and against tyranny. 也反對無知和專橫。
Now, I learned those words from my mentor, 我從導師那裡學到了這些話，
- Mr. Ray Nelson, everybody. - Thank you. - 大家請歡迎雷，尼爾森先生。- 謝謝。
Let's let him hear it, huh? 我們大聲一些歡迎，好嗎？
Huh? His ego needs it. Bring it on. 他的自我形象需要這個。來吧。
That's enough. 足夠了。
Now, you all know Ray. 你們都認識雷。
He's a legend in the business. 他是事業的傳奇。
But, to me, Ray, you've been more like a father, so... 但是，對我來說，雷，你更像是一個父親，所以...
thank you. 謝謝。
Thank you. Thank you, son. 謝謝。謝謝你，兒子。
Most importantly, uh, I owe this honor 最重要的是，我欠這個榮譽
to my beautiful and very patient 歸我又美麗而又有耐心
and very pregnant wife, uh... 和正在懷孕中的太太，啊...
and to my favorite little lady, Alison. 和我最喜歡的小女，艾莉森。
I love you both more than you'll ever know. 我超過妳們所知道的愛妳們。
- Aw... - Yes, sweetie? - 啊... - 是的，親愛的
Now can we eat? 現在我們可以吃嗎
- "Now can we eat, Daddy?" - Yes! - “爸爸，現在我們可以開始吃嗎？“ - 可以!
- Yes! - I'll drink to that. - 是的 - 我們舉杯。
- Cheers! - Thank you. - 乾杯！ - 謝謝。
- What's next? - I got "pasta." - 下一步是什麼？ - 我有“意大利麪”。
Ooh. Well, then. 哦。好吧。
Of course, she finds the biggest word on here, right? 當然，她在這裡找到最難的單字，對吧？
"Asparagus"? “蘆筍”？
Wow, that is a big word. 哇，那是個難的單字。
Not for a girl who's lost a tooth. 對於一個換乳牙的女孩來說，不是。
- Oh, okay. - Oh, big girl. - 哦好的。 - 哦，大女孩
I'm still impressed. 我很稱讚
A big girl who didn't eat her dinner. 一個沒有吃晚餐的大女孩
- I'm full. - You're full? - 我吃飽了。 - 妳飽了？
- Is that right? - Yeah. - 是嗎？ - 是的
Are you gonna tell me 妳會告訴我
you're hungry when we get home? 到家的時候你又餓了嗎？
All right, I'm gonna give you dessert 好吧，我會給妳甜點吃
if you eat one more noodle. 如果妳再吃一些麪條
- That was easy. - See? - 那很簡單。 - 看我？
Just have to bribe her a little bit. 只需要賄賂她一點。
- Chew it up. - Mm-hmm. - 好好嚼。嗯。
We done? 我們完成了嗎？
- Show me done. -There's still spaghetti in there. - 讓我看一下 - 那裡還有意大利麪。
Swallow that. 吞下這個。
Take this. Go. 拿着它。走。
Good work. 不錯。
You know, I'm feeling pretty good about myself. 你知道，我對自我感覺很好。
- Yeah? - Mm-hmm. - 是啊？嗯。
How is that? 為什麼這麼覺得？
I am married to a published author. 我嫁給了一位出版家。
That's very impressive. 這是非常了不起的。
- Mm-hmm. Isn't it? - Mm-hmm. 嗯。不是嗎？ 嗯。
I'm proud of you. 我爲你感到驕傲。
- Thank you. - Mm-hmm. - 謝謝。嗯。
- I love you. - I love you. - 我愛你。 - 我也愛妳。
You and only you. 愛你也只愛你
Mm-hmm? - Sweetie? 嗯。 - 甜心？
Ali, what is it, baby? 艾莉，怎麼了，寶貝？
- Are you choking? - I think she's choking. - 吃的東西噎住嗎。 - 我覺得她吃的東西噎住了。
- Ali, come on, cough. - Hey, sweetie, - 艾莉，來，咳嗽。嘿，親愛的，
just breathe for Mommy, okay? 為媽媽呼吸，好嗎？
- Ali? Please, Lee. -Everybody, please, just give her... - 艾莉？求你，Lee。 - 求每個人，請給她...
- give her some space. - Lee, do something, Lee. 給她一些空間。Lee，我們做點什麼，Lee。
- Ali, I'm right here. Okay, -Come on, honey, come on. - 艾莉，我在這裡。撐住，親愛的，加油。
- Baby, it's gonna be okay. - Can somebody help us, please?! - 寶貝，會好起來的 - 有人可以幫我們嗎？
Call an ambulance! 叫救護車！
- It's okay, baby. I'm right here. - Look at Daddy, okay? - 沒關係，寶貝。我在這裡 - 看爸爸，好嗎？
Okay, breathe for me. You're gonna be all right. 好的，深呼吸，妳會沒事的。
Baby, I'm right here. I don't know... 寶貝，我就在這裡。 我不知道...
I don't know what... I don't know what to... 我不知道該...我不知道該怎麼辦
- I love you, sweetheart. Just... - She can't breathe! - 我愛妳，親愛的。只是... - 她無法呼吸！
- Hand her to me. Quick, quick. I'm a nurse. -Ali, please! - 把她交給我，快，我是一名護士。 - 艾莉，跟我！
- Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. - Okay, just stay calm. - 快，快，快。 - 沒事，只要保持冷靜
Come on. Come on, Ali, cough for me. 來吧。來吧，艾莉，為我咳一下
- Cough, honey. - She can't breathe, Lee! - 咳出來，親愛的 - 她不能呼吸，Lee！
She can't... 她不能...
Sweetie. 親愛的。
- Cough, baby. Cough, baby. - Sweetie? Okay... - 咳出來，寶貝。咳出來，寶貝 - 甜心？ 好的...
Okay... 好的...
- Just breathe, okay? - She's coughing. - 只要呼吸，好嗎？ - 她在咳嗽
- She's fine now. She's fine. - Okay? - 她現在好多了，她好了。 - 可以嗎？
- Okay, just breathe. - Thank you so much. - 好吧，只要深呼吸。 - 非常感謝。
Thank you, thank you. 謝謝，謝謝。
- I don't know how to thank you. - Come here, baby. Come here. - 我不知道怎麼感謝您。 - 來吧，寶貝。過來。
- Thank you so much. - You don't have to thank me. - 非常感謝。 - 你不必感謝我。
I'm a nurse at Mercy Hospital. 我是慈愛醫院的護士。
She's gonna be fine now. 她現在沒事了
We're so lucky. 我們很幸運。
Well, it's not luck. 不只是幸運。
It's Jesus. 是耶穌
My husband and I were on our way 我和我的丈夫在路上
to another restaurant tonight. 今晚本來打算要去另一家餐廳。
Something told me I needed to be here. 但有事告訴我，我需要在這裡。
Wow. Thank you. 哇。謝謝。
Um, Leslie. 嗯，我叫萊斯利。
Alfie. Alfie Davis. 阿爾菲。阿爾菲·戴維斯。
I'm not gonna forget you. 我不會忘記您的。
God bless you. 上帝祝福妳。
Just keeping it interesting, huh? 人生中，有意思的事常有，是吧？
You keep drinking that. 妳繼續喝飲料。
I can still have candy, though, right? 我還可以吃糖果，對吧？
We'll have to see about that. 我們必須觀察一下。
You get some sleep now, 妳睡一覺，吧。
all right, missy? 好嗎，小女兒？
- Mom? - Hmm? 媽媽？ - 嗯？
Who's Jesus? 誰是耶穌？
Jesus was a man... great man... 耶穌是個男人...偉人
And... you know, we've talked about God, right? ...妳知道，我們已經談論過上帝了，對吧？
Honey, you know how Mommy and Daddy 親愛的，妳知道媽媽和爸爸
read you stories at night... 晚上讀給妳的故事...
You know, the fairy tales that you like? 妳知道，妳喜歡的童話故事嗎？
So, believing in God 所以，相信上帝
is kind of like that... It's really nice stories. 也是這樣的...是真的很好的故事。
But we are atheists. 但我們是無神論者。
Atheists don't believe in God. 無神論者不信神。
What do they believe? 那他們相信什麼？
Uh, they believe in what's real, 他們相信什麼是真實的，
in what we can see, what we can touch. 可以看到的，可以觸摸的。
Like What? 像什麼？
Oh... like this. 哦，就像這樣
Well, I guess I'm an atheist, too. 嗯，我想我也是一個無神論者。
Get some sleep, booger, okay? 寶貝，睡個好覺，好嗎？
Here's Beary. 這是小熊。
There you go. 給妳
Fudge Pop. Fudge Pop布娃娃。
All right, sleep good. I love you. 好吧，睡個好覺。我愛妳。
Daddy? 爸爸？
- Yes, love? - Good night. - 是的，親愛的？ - 晚安。
Good night, baby. 晚安寶貝。
I thought we said we weren't 我以爲我們說好我們不會
gonna force anything on her. 強迫她任何東西
She asked. 她問我們。
Right, so as long as it's what we believe. 對，所以只要是我們所相信的。
Ugh. Are-are we really gonna go around on this again, Les? 啊。是的，我們真的要再討論一次嗎，萊斯？
I guess so. 我想是這樣。
Babe, I... 寶貝，我...
I am grateful for what that woman did tonight... 我很感謝，今晚的那個女人做的一切...
Obviously... 當然...
But it was... it's a coincidence. 但只是個巧合。
It didn't mean anything. 這並不意味着什麼。
How can you say that? 你怎麼能這麼說？
She was going to another restaurant, 她要去另一家餐廳，
and something made her come to ours. 有些事使她來到我們這裡。
You think that means nothing? 你覺得沒什麼含意？
I know it means nothing. 我知道這不意味着什麼。
Can I tell you what it means? 我可以告訴你這是什麼含意嗎？
It means that we would've lost Alison. 這意味着我們差點失去艾莉森。
If that woman hadn't been there, we would've lost her. 如果那個女人不出現，我們就會失去艾莉森。
Our whole world would've changed forever. 我們的整個人生將徹底變化。
I... Yes, but it didn't. ...對，但沒有。
Okay? 好嗎？
We're all okay. 我們都沒事
Everyone's okay. 大家都沒事
There you go. I got ya. Whoa. 這裡。我幫你。喔。
Hey, chief. 嘿，主管。
I could've edited three pieces with my red pencil 我可以用我的紅鉛筆，寫三章，
in the time it takes me to do one piece 要不是因為
on this ridiculous thing. 這個可笑的電腦。
My new book. 我寫的新書
Just picked these up from the mailroom. 剛從郵件室拿起這些。
Wanted you to be the first to see it. 希望你成爲第一個看到我新書的人。
Hmm. 嗯。
Hey, there was a cop shooting this weekend. 嘿，這個週末曾有一個槍傷警察的案子。
Englewood. Officer survived. 恩格爾伍德。軍官倖存了下來
See what you can get me on the shooter, James Hicks. 看看你可以調查射手，詹姆斯·希克斯些什麼。
No, that's cop beat. I'm Legal Affairs now. 不，那是“警察事務”編輯的事。我現在是“法律事務”編輯了。
Why don't you give that to Monroe? 你爲什麼不給 “門羅”？
Now, you may be 如今，你可能是
a golden boy to the suits upstairs, 一個向上攀升的好小子。
but to me you're still just a beat reporter here. 但是對我來說，你仍然還是一個記者。
Thank you. 謝謝。
Uh, don't close the... 啊，不要關（門）...
London. Hey. 倫敦。嘿。
Want an autographed copy of my new book? 想要我親筆簽名的新書嗎？
- Not one bit. - Ooh. - 沒興趣 - 哦
Jealousy doesn't look good on you, my friend. 嫉妒心，不是件好“衣裳”。
Then again, nothing does. 事實上，在你身上穿什麼都不好。
Overnight legal briefs from AP, Mr. Strobel. 來自美聯社，的隔夜法律簡報，史特博先生。
Thanks, 羅德. Hey. 謝謝羅德。嘿。
Want you to go through yesterday's local rags. 想要你能查一下昨天的本地新聞。
See if anyone reported on a cop shooting. 看看有沒有人報導過槍傷警察的事。
Perp's name is Hicks... James Hicks. 罪犯的名字是希克斯（詹姆斯·希克斯）。
Hicks. James Hicks. Sure. 希克斯·詹姆斯·希克斯。好吧。
- Okay. - You got 30 minutes. - 好的。 - 你只有30分鐘。
I'll take a book if you're still offering. 如果你可以給我，我要一本你的書。
Hey, London. 嘿，倫敦。
Hear that? Got my first taker. 聽到了嗎？我的第一個讀者。
He doesn't know any better. 他不瞭解罷了。
Bet you're gonna go far in this business, kid. 伙計，你會在這個行業裡混出頭的。
Even if you are sucking up. 即便你只是恭維。
29 minutes, 羅德. 29分鐘，羅德。
Room 241, bed two, going home today. 241室，二號床，今天回家
Want to prep for discharge, please? 可以準備出院一下嗎？
Leslie? 萊斯利？
Yes. Hi. 沒錯。妳好。
Alfie. Yes. 阿爾菲。是的。
Um... muffins. 嗯...瑪芬麵包
I have not... been able to stop thinking about it. 我停不住的思考
What if you hadn't been there? 如果妳那天沒在場會怎樣？
There is no "what if" with God. 在上帝沒有“如果”
You're so sure. 妳很確信
How can you be so sure? 妳怎麼能這麼確信？
Do you really want an answer to that? 妳真的想要一個回答嗎？
Please. 請給我。
- Alfie. So sorry. - Ah! - 阿爾菲，非常抱歉。 - 啊！
I'm sorry. The babysitter. 對不起。我的保姆。
- I'm-I'm sorry. - Oh, it's fine. - 我很抱歉 - 哦，沒關係
- Okay. Okay. - Come on. Come on in. - 好的。好的。 - 來吧。進來。
♪ O soul, are you weary ♪ ♪你心靈是否煩惱♪
♪ And troubled? ♪ ♪困苦？ ♪
♪ No light in the darkness ♪ ♪不見亮光♪
♪ You see? ♪ ♪黑暗滿佈♪
♪ There's light for a look at the Savior... ♪ ♪仰望主耶穌就得光明♪
Sometimes God speaks to us in unexpected 有時神會以意想不到的方式與我們說話
and surprising ways. 而且是令人驚訝的方式。
So tonight, for example, 所以今晚，好比，
if you find yourself here for the first time, 你第一次發現自己身在這裡，
I just want to encourage you to open your heart 我只是想鼓勵你敞開你的心
and take a chance. 並抓住機會。
Maybe God's trying to get your attention right now. 也許上帝試圖想要得到你的注意。
And, trust me, if you listen expectantly 而且，相信我，如果你仔細聽
for His whispers, you'll hear them. 聽祂的微小聲音，你會聽到的。
You Will. 你會。
Maybe you're afraid. 也許你有些恐懼
Maybe you have doubts. 也許你有疑問。
Maybe you've felt something missing in your life 也許在你生活中感覺到失去了一些東西
and you don't know quite what it is. 但你不知道失去的是什麼。
That's fine. 沒事。
God is patient. 上帝是有耐心的。
And when you're ready, I promise you, 當你準備好了，我保證你，
He'll be right there waiting for you with open arms. 祂會在那裡張開雙臂等着你。
- Hey. - Hi. - 嘿 - 你好
Sorry I missed dinner. 對不起我錯過了晚餐。
New boss piling on the work. 新老闆給了好多任務。
I think he's punishing me for the award. 我認爲他正在懲罰我，因為我得到獎杯。
How was your day? 妳今天過得怎麼樣？
Good. 不錯。
It was good. 很好。
Officer Koblinsky. 科布林斯基 官員
- Who are you? - Lee Strobel. - 你是誰？ - Lee 史特博。
I'm with the Chicago Tribune. 我是芝加哥論壇報的。
Close call, huh? 幸免，對吧？
So, I'm looking to do a story on the shooting. 我正在報導關於槍傷案的故事。
You know, hero cop, 你知道，警察英雄，
injured in the line of duty, that whole angle. 受傷在崗位上，這樣的報導角度。
I'm not supposed to talk to anybody from the press. 我不可以接受媒體任何人的採訪的。
I know, but you've gotta be able to give me something. 我知道，但你總可以給我一點可報導的吧。
You know the deal. Not while it's under investigation. 你知道這事。案子還在調查中，是不可以的。
Look, I read your report. 跟你說，我讀了你的報告。
I know you and James Hicks got in a scuffle, 我知道你，詹姆斯·希克斯 發生了爭執。
I know he shot you, but come on. 我知道他槍傷了你， 來吧老兄
Give me a little something off the record? 給我一些可以私下記錄的東西？
Why do you think he did it, huh? 你爲什麼認爲他是歹徒？
Look, thanks anyway, okay? 好吧，不管如何，謝謝了。
Ah... 啊...
All right. 好吧。
I will go find another hero cop to interview. 我會去找另一位警察英雄去採訪。
Mr. Strobel, do you want a story? 史特博 先生，你想要一個故事嗎？
Yeah. 是啊。
Do one on the gangbanger who did this. 在這個歹徒上做一個報導。
Put him away for good. 抓他坐牢。
Feel better, huh? 儘快好起來吧
We find the answer right here 我們在這裡找到答案
in the Book of John, chapter one, verse 12, 在約翰福音書中，一章，十二節，
"But as many as received Him, “凡接待他的，
"to them He gave the right to become children of God, “他就賜他們權柄，作 神的兒女，
to those who believe in His name." 就是信他名的人“。
So, what does it mean to not just believe but receive? 那麼，什麼是不僅僅相信，而且又接受？
And how does it lead us... 又是怎樣引導我們...
So, did you ever go to church? 那麼，妳以前去過教堂嗎？
Yeah, I went to church as a girl. 是的，我還是小女生的時候去過。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
And my mom sung hymns to me. 我媽媽常唱讚美詩給我。
But Lee and I moved on from how we were raised. 但是Lee和我從我們的成長背景裡脫離了。
And, uh, what is it that Lee believes in again? 喔，那Lee相信什麼呢？
Just the facts. 只是相信事實。
Okay. 好。
I've always been kind of curious, 我一直有些好奇，
but, uh, lately, you know, 但是，啊，最近妳知道，
having Alison and now... 有艾莉森，現在又...
It's just starting to seem more important to know. 看上去，變得更重要的需要知道。
And I don't believe that it was a coincidence 我不覺得那天
that you came to the restaurant... I don't... so... 妳到那間餐廳是巧合...我不覺得...那
What do I do with that? 我該怎麼辦？
What do you think you should do with it? 妳認爲應該怎麼辦？
I don't know. I've just... 我不知道。我已經...
I've just spent most of my life 我已經度過了人生大部分的時間
feeling like God is a million miles away. 感覺上帝遙不可及。
Oh, no, sweetheart. 哦，親愛的，不是這樣
God is not a million miles away. 上帝不是遙不可及。
He's right here... 祂就在這裡
right now, 現在就在，
waiting for you to talk to Him. 等待妳跟祂說話
The TV's all staticky again. 電視機訊號又不好了。
Tried banging on it. That's not working anymore. 試著拍打它。還是不行。
Did you check the roof? 你檢查了屋頂了嗎？
Yeah. The, uh, antenna's fine. 是啊。啊，天線沒事。
Maybe you should call the repair guy, 也許妳應該叫修理員，
see if he can come by and take a peek at it tomorrow. 看他是否明天可以來看看。
Sure. 好的。
Hey, so I went to see Alfie last week. 嘿，我上週去見阿爾菲。
Uh... 啊...
- Alfie, Alfie, Alfie... - Alfie, Alfie. - 阿爾菲，阿爾菲... - 阿爾菲，阿爾菲。
Superwoman who saved our daughter? 救了我們女兒的女超人？
- Right. - Alfie. - 喔。 - 阿爾菲
So, uh, she invited me to her church, 所以，啊，她請我到她的教堂，
and I went. 我去了
Really? 真的？
Oh, I would've loved to have seen that. 哦，真想看到妳去的模樣。
Yeah, well, I wanted to go. 嗯，實話說，我想要去。
Can't we just give it a break, Les? Okay? 我們能不能不談這個，萊斯？好嗎？
I know you were rattled the other night. 我知道妳那天晚上被挑起來了。
Are you interested in hearing me or just condescending? 你有興趣聽我說話還是瞧不起我？
No, that's not... that's not what I'm trying to do here. 不，這不是...這不是我在做的。
Okay? Alison's fine, hon. 好的？艾莉森很好，親愛的。
Let's not go crazy. 我們不要發瘋好嗎。
I'm not acting crazy. Am I acting crazy? 我沒有發瘋，我發瘋了嗎？
It was the wrong choice of words. 話說的嚴重了。
I don't think you're crazy. 我不覺得妳發瘋。
I think you're pregnant. 我覺得妳是因為懷孕的緣故。
And a little crazy. 只有一點點瘋。
And scared, and... I get it. 和有些恐懼... 我瞭解。
Do you? Because I'm not done yet. 是嗎？因爲我還沒講完。
Okay. 好的。
So, I went to church. 跟你講，那天我去教堂。
And I don't know exactly how it happened, but... 而且我不知道怎樣發生的，但是...
I felt something. 我感受到一些東西
And so I went again tonight. 所以我今晚又去了。
And I know this is gonna be weird to hear, 我知道這聽起來很奇怪，
because it's weird to say, but... 因爲形容起來很奇怪，但是...
I prayed. 我禱告了。
So, what are you... what are you telling me, Les? 妳説什麼...妳要告訴我什麼，萊斯？
I'm saying that... 我是說...
I talked to Jesus. 我跟耶穌對話了。
I... I told Him I want Him in my life. 我告訴他，我希望有他在我的生活中。
You what? 妳什麼？
Why? 爲什麼？
- Why would you...? - Hey, stay with me. - 妳爲什麼會...？嘿，跟我說
Hon, this is a good thing. 親愛的，這是件好事。
What did this Alfie woman say to you? 那個阿爾菲女人對妳說了些什麼？
It was my decision. 這是我自己的決定。
- Okay? - I don't accept it. - 好的？ - 我不接受
You don't get to accept it. I'm not asking. 不是接受不接受。我不是問你。
I'm telling you what happened. 我是告訴你發生了什麼事
You're not hearing me. 你不聽我說
Okay. Listen, hon. 好的。聽我說，親愛的。
It's me. 是我。
This is me talking to you. It's me. 這是我跟你說話，是我。
Honestly, this is something 老實說，這是件
that I think I've been thinking for a long time 我考慮很久的事。
and I just haven't been able to... 我只是沒有能夠...
to say anything because of who you are. 說些什麼，因爲你。
Oh, are you kidding me, Les? 哦，妳在開玩笑嗎，萊斯？
- I know this is a lot, hon. - A lot? - 我知道這很重要，親愛的。 - 很沉重？
A lot? You drop this on me. 很沉重？妳就丟到我身上。
What does that even mean? 這意味著什麼？
I don't know what it means, 我不知道這意味著什麼，
but I know it's a good thing for me. 但我知道這對我來說是件好事。
- For us. Yes. - No. No. Okay. - 對我們來說。是這樣。不，不是。
- Yes. - Okay, this is not us, Les. - 是的 - 好的，這不是我們，萊斯。
Whatever this is, okay, it is not us. 無論這是什麼，這不是我們。
You are on your own... 妳只能靠自己...
Can you listen to me and not get mad? 你能聽我說，不要生氣好嗎？
I am listening to you, and that's the problem, 我在聽妳的話，這就是問題，
so if you're serious about this... 所以如果妳要是認真的...
- And I am. - Okay, well, then I... - 我是認真的 - 那我不知道
then I don't know what to say to you 那我不知道說什麼
- about whatever this is. - Don't say anything, then. - 關於這到底是什麼。 - 那就不說什麼了。
Just listen to what I'm trying to say, 聽我要說的，
because I'm trying to explain that I felt something 因爲我想説 我感受到一些東西
that is maybe more real than anything 比任何感受到的都真實
I've ever felt in my life. 是我一生中從未感受到的
More real than anything you've felt in your life. 比妳生活中感受到的任何事物都真實。
- Okay, I'm not trying to compare. - Got it. Got it. - 好的，我不想比較。 - 瞭解。瞭解。
- I'm... - No. You know what? - 我... - 不，你知道嗎？
I don't want to hear any more of this. 我不想再聽到這個了。
- Come on. Hon... - Okay? - 來吧。親愛的...好嗎？
Where are you going? 你要去哪裡？
To file a missing persons report. 去報告我太太失蹤了。
- That's not funny. - Not meant to be. - 這不好笑 - 沒想要好笑。
Thank you. 謝謝。
I love you, Lee Strobel. 我愛你，Lee 史特博。
You and only you. 你也只愛你。
I feel like I can get through to her before 我覺得我們可以說到她心裡
she gets too deep, but I remember, 在她陷得太深以前， 我想起，
you went through something like this, 你也經歷了這樣的事情，
uh, with your daughter... With Lori, right? 啊，你女兒...Lori，是吧？
Yes, yes, I did. 是的，是的，我經歷過。
It's a conundrum. 這是一個難題
You see, in times of crisis, 你看，在危機時，
we humans tend to seek meaning, don't we? 我們人類傾向於尋求意義，不是嗎？
You've read Bertrand Russell, of course. 當然，你已經讀過 伯特蘭·羅素 的書了。
Yeah, of course. 嗯，沒錯。
I mean, not since college, but... 我的意思是，大學時期讀過，但是...
There's no way that Leslie would read that right now. 現在萊斯利不會再讀了。
Yeah, my daughter wouldn't, either, 是的，我的女兒也不會，
but I kept picking away at the delusion 但我一直對她的錯覺下手
until she finally came around. 直到她終於回來了。
But I gotta tell you, Lee, 但我必須告訴你，Lee，
doesn't come without a price. 不會沒有代價。
How do you mean? 你是什麼意思？
Whatever this is for Leslie, 不管怎樣，對於萊斯利，
maybe it's not such a terrible thing. 也許這不是一件壞的事情。
I mean, if it brings her comfort, 我的意思是，如果這事帶給她安慰，
are you sure it's not something you can live with? 你確定這不是你可以融入生活的事嗎？
Yes, I'm sure. I'm not gonna lose 是的，我很確定。我不能輸掉
my wife and my kids to some thing 我的太太和我的孩子給一些
that I can't even reason with. No. 我甚至不能理解的事物。絕對不能。
I can't even pretend to go along with this, Ray. 我假裝認同，都不行，雷。
I mean, you of all people should understand that. 我的意思是，萬人中，你應該最瞭解。
I do. 是。
And I know that Leslie is a reasonable woman, 我知道萊斯利是一個通情達理的女人，
so I think that reason is probably the best approach. 所以我覺得從理智下手可能是最好的辦法。
And, as always, it comes down to facts and truth. 和往常一樣，歸結於事實和真理。
Now, you present her with the facts, 你向她呈現事實，
and I'm sure she will find her way back to the truth. 我相信她會回到真相的。
Meanwhile, my collection is at your disposal. 我的藏書全都給你參考，如果你需要。
Take your time. 不急。
Appreciate it, Ray. 真心感謝，雷。
Oh, Lee, one more thing. 哦，Lee，還有一件事。
I'll be praying for you. 我會爲你“禱告”
That's not even funny. 不好笑，冷笑話。
Kenny, let me ask you something. 肯尼，讓我問你一些
Uh, you're into all this God nonsense. 啊，你對上帝的瞎編故事很感興趣。
Wow, you sure know how to charm a source. 哇，你真的知道怎樣打動採訪對象的心。
So, a bunch of Bible thumpers got to Leslie. 跟你說，一大堆聖經狂熱宣講者，贏了萊斯利。
Um... 嗯...
I'm afraid she joined your cult. 我恐怕她加入了你的邪教。
So, if somebody... somebody wanted to do 所以，如果有人想做
an investigation into Christianity... 對基督教的調查...
Oh, like a hit piece. 哦，像 爆料。
Well, uh... 啊...是...
you know, if that's where the evidence leads. 跟你說，如果最後證據代表這些。
Seems to me you got yourself a catch-22. 你就會悖論，左右為難
What's that? 為什麼？
Let's say you debunk Christianity. 假設你揭破了基督教。
How's Leslie gonna live with the man who destroyed 萊斯利怎麼會和一個
the very thing that now gives her life meaning? 毀滅了賦予她生命意義的人一起生活？
I... Because I should be the thing 我...因爲我才應該是這
that gives her life meaning. 賦予她生命意義的人。
And then what if Leslie's right 話說回來，要是萊斯利是對的呢
and you prove your theory of science and reason wrong? 而且你證明了你的科學理論是錯的？
How are you gonna live with yourself? 你怎麼受得了自己？
I'm willing to take that chance. 我願意試試看看。
Okay. You're a journalist. 好的。你是一個記者。
Check it out. 一探究竟。
Where would you start? 你從哪裡著手呢？
Unless you want to do two years of seminary, 除非你想讀兩年的神學院，
I'd say go straight for the jugular. 我會說去直接擊中要害。
The entire Christian faith 整個基督教信仰
hinges on the resurrection of Jesus. 取決於耶穌的復活。
If it didn't happen, it's a house of cards. 如果復活沒有發生，就經不起考驗了。
He's reduced to a misunderstood rabbi at best. 耶穌最多是個誤解了的“拉比”老師。
At worst, he's a lunatic who was martyred. 最糟就是，他是一個瘋子，殉難了。
For a guy who thinks I'm trying to assassinate Christianity, 對於一個認爲我，試圖破壞基督教的人，
you sure you want to hand me that gun? 你確定要給我那把槍嗎？
I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be able 我很確定你不能
- to pull the trigger. - All right. 拉得動扳機。 - 好吧。
Who's the big authority on the Resurrection? 誰是關於復活的權威人物？
Dr. Gary Habermas. 加里，哈伯馬斯博士
He debated Antony Flew. 他辯論了弗魯。
That guy's one of my heroes. 弗魯是我的一個英雄。
He's in Wisconsin, by the way. 他在威斯康辛州，順便說一句。
Big debate this weekend. 這個週末有大辯論。
- Wisconsin? - Mm-hmm. - 威斯康辛州？ - 嗯。
Who would go to Wisconsin? 誰會去威斯康辛州？
Spike in gang violence, 匪幫暴力成災，
especially in the communities of Wrigleyville, 特別是在 萊格里維爾 的社區，
Lincoln Park, and Englewood, as evidenced... 林肯公園 和 恩格爾伍德，證明...
Dr. Habermas, if Christians want to hold on 哈伯馬斯博士，如果基督徒想要堅持
to their belief in a giant cosmic imaginary friend... 相信一個巨大宇宙般的想像的朋友...
that's all well and good, 這一切都很好，
but don't try to stand your historical technique 但不要試圖使用你的歷史證據
up against a tsunami of legitimate scholarship. 反對壓倒性的學問研究。
You will drown. 你會淹死的
Well, thank you for the warning, Dr. Singer, 好，謝謝你的警告，辛格博士，
but are you not aware that Gerd Ludemann, 但你不知道Gerd Ludemann，
one of the most famous atheist 最著名的無神論者之一
New Testament scholars, now believes 新約學者現在相信
that the earliest known report of the Resurrection 最早知道的復活報告
was formed no more than three years after the Cross? 在耶穌釘十字架後不到三年？
Now, these are your colleagues, sir, not mine. 這些是您的同事，先生，不是我的。
Something you'd like to ask me, Mr. Strobel? 你想問我什麼，史特博先生？
Yeah, well, I-l... so I read your book, 是啊，好吧，我...我讀了你的書，
and there's something that stuck out to me. 有一些東西感觸了我。
How can anyone talk about 怎麼有人可以談論
historical evidence for the Resurrection 復活的歷史證據
when the Resurrection, by nature, is a miracle? 當“復活”本質上就是一個奇蹟呢？
Right? We all know miracles can't be proven scientifically. 對？我們都知道奇蹟無法科學證明。
Correct, but we don't have to prove a miracle 正確，但我們不必證明奇蹟
to prove a resurrection. 去證明復活。
Okay. Love to hear you explain that one. 好的。希望你解釋一下。
No, you just have to show that Jesus died 不，你只需要表明耶穌死了
and he was seen afterwards. 他後來被看見。
Right, but the very people who claim 對，但是許多人聲稱
that they saw him are religious zealots. 看到他的是宗教狂熱分子。
So, in my line of work, we call those "biased sources." 所以，在我的工作中，我們稱之爲“有偏見的來源”。
Well, I'm not interested in bias either, Mr. Strobel. 那麼，我也不會對偏見感興趣，史特博先生。
You see, I care about the facts 你看，我在乎事實
for professional and-and personal reasons. 出於專業和個人原因。
Right, so where are the facts, Dr. Habermas? 對，哈伯馬斯博士，事實如何？
The Resurrection narrative is more legend than it is history. 關於復活的敘述和歷史比，更像是傳奇。
Really? Well, not according to historical records. 真的？但，根據歷史記載不是這樣。
Did you know that we have a report of the Resurrection 你知道我們有一個復活的報告
with specific eyewitnesses that dates all the way back 有具體的目擊者可以追溯到
within months of the Resurrection itself? 復活本身的幾個月內？
That source also adds that 500 separate people 該來源還補充了500個獨立的目擊者
saw Jesus at the same time. 同時看到耶穌。
We're not talking decades or centuries 我們不是說幾十年還是幾個世紀
after the Cross, Mr. Strobel. 在十字架後， 史特博先生。
It's months. 而是幾個月。
Hey, you a coffee drinker? 嘿，你喝咖啡嗎？
Uh, sure. 好的
I should be able to reach the faucet. 我應該能搆到水龍頭。
When am I gonna be taller? 我什麼時候會長高一些？
Before you know it. 不知不覺中。
- Ooh. - What's wrong, Mommy? - 哦，媽媽怎麼了？
Nothing's wrong. 沒什麼
It's just the little one saying hello. 只是胎兒的一個小小問候。
Okay, so 500 witnesses, 好，所以有500名目擊者
but that's still just one historical source: the Bible. 但這只是一個歷史來源：聖經。
Wrong. There are at least nine ancient sources 錯。至少有九個古代歷史來源
both inside and outside the Bible 聖經內聖經外都有
confirming that disciples and others 確定門徒和其他人
encountered Jesus after the Crucifixion. 在耶穌釘死十字架後又遇到耶穌。
But-but they were already followers of Jesus. 但是，但他們已經是耶穌的跟隨者了。
Well, not all of them. 嗯，不全部是。
Think of Saul of Tarsus. 舉例：大數的掃羅。
He originally was a persecutor of Christians. 他原來是基督徒的迫害者。
He hunted them down and killed them. 他抓捕他們，屠殺他們。
Yet he died the Apostle Paul, 然而他成為使徒改名保羅，為主而死
proclaiming that Jesus was the Son of God. 宣告耶穌是神的兒子。
But-but let's not kid ourselves here. 但是，讓我們不要開自己的玩笑。
People die for lies all the time. 人們一直爲謊言而死。
900 people died drinking poison Kool-Aid at Jonestown. 瓊斯鎮有900人服毒酒而死。
True, and there are other examples like that 的確，還有其它的例子
throughout history, but here's the difference. 在歷史長河中，但這裡有區別。
People don't willingly drink poison 人們不自願喝毒藥
for something that they know is a lie. 假如確定是謊言。
Fair point. 有道理。
If the early Church martyrs 如果早期教會的殉道者
knew that the Resurrection was a hoax, 知道復活是一個騙局，
then why would they willingly die for it? 那麼還會爲之而死呢？
- Would you? - Um, I want to go back - 你會麼？ - 嗯，我想回到剛才
to something that you said earlier. 你說過的話。
You said that, uh... that this was personal to you. 你說過，啊，這對你是很有親身體會的。
Why is that? 這是爲什麼？
I lost my wife Debbie to cancer. 我失去了我的太太黛比 因爲癌症。
I'm sorry about that. 我很抱歉
It was the worst thing that will ever happen to me. 這是對我來說最難過的事。
But in my time of loss, it... 但在我因失去而痛苦的時候，...
it made me confront my beliefs. 痛苦讓我面對我的信仰。
That is where I found my true comfort. 也從中得到了真正的安慰。
Because I know that I am gonna see my wife again someday. 因爲我知道有一天我會再次見到我的太太。
And... forgive me, but as a man who... ...原諒我，但作爲一個男人...
who claims to value hard evidence, 誰聲稱重視證據，
don't you find that that sort of, um, 你不覺得那種，
hopeful thinking weakens your argument? 充滿盼望的思考方式，削弱了你的觀點？
Not one bit. 一點都不會。
The fact that I benefit from gravity 我受益於地球引力
isn't proof that it's real, 並不能證明它是真的，
just as my dislike for mosquitoes 就像我不喜歡蚊子
isn't an argument against their existence. 也不能反證蚊子的存在。
You see, what I... what I want and what I don't want 你看，我想要什麼，我不想要什麼
has no impact on truth. 對真理沒有影響。
That being said, if Christ's resurrection means 話雖如此，如果基督的復活意味着
that I get to be with Debbie again, 我將會和 黛比 再次天國見面，
I have no problem being happy about that. 我不會拒絕幸福感。
Sometimes truth reminds us of what's really important. 有時真相讓我們想起了真正重要的事情。
Oh, Lee, Lee. Lee. 哦，Lee，Lee。Lee。
Alfie. Remember me? 阿爾菲。還記得我嗎？
Yeah, of course. What happened? 嗯，當然咯。發生了什麼？
Okay, well, her water broke. 嗯，她的羊水破了。
She couldn't reach you, so she called me, 她無法聯繫到你，所以她打電話給我，
and... well, I drove her here. 然後，我開車送她到這裡。
Again... thank you. 再次感謝妳
I'll take it from here. - Okay 我從這接手了。 - 好
- Hey, Les. - Lee. - 嘿，萊斯。 - Lee。
- Daddy. - Hey, peanut. - 爸爸 - 嘿，花生
You a big helper for Mama? 妳是媽媽的大幫手嗎？
Lee, where were you? Lee，你在哪裡？
- I was working, hon. -Hon, I paged you and I paged you - 我在工作，親愛的。 - 親愛的，我用BP Call尋呼你一次又一次
- and I paged you and I... - I know, I know. Okay? - 我... - 我知道，我知道。好的？
Yeah. 是啊。
- You okay? - Mm-hmm. - 妳還好嗎？- 嗯。
He's beautiful. 孩子長得漂亮。
They're cleaning him up. 他們正在清洗嬰兒。
We were at home, 我們還在家，
and I started cramping, and... 當我開始痙攣，...
Ali was scared. Right? 艾莉嚇了一跳，是吧？
And we prayed, and everything got better. 我們祈禱，一切都變好了。
Good. I'm glad. 好棒。我很高興。
- Oh... - Oh, hi, sweetie. - 哦，哦，嗨，親愛的
Hey, come here, honey. 嘿，來這裡，親愛的
Oh, hi. 啊，你好。
Oh, he's got healthy lungs. 哦，他有健康的肺。
Meet your son, Kyle Christopher. 見你的兒子 凱爾·克里斯托弗。
- Hey. - Hi. - 嘿 - 你好
Hey. 嘿。
Welcome to the world, buddy. 歡迎你來到世界，夥計。
You should call your parents, don't you think? 你應該打電話給你的父母，你不覺得嗎？
People can change, you know? 人們會改變的，你知道嗎
Well, the announcement's in the paper. 已經登報祝賀了。
They can read it just like everybody else. 他們可以像其他人一樣閱讀報紙。
Good gracious. 好重。
500 Eyewitnesses Saw Jesus after Crocifixion. 500 個目擊者在耶穌釘十架後看見耶穌。
Are the manuscripts reliable? 這些手稿可靠嗎？
Mr. Marlow. 馬洛先生
Lee Strobel, Chicago Tribune. Lee 史特博，芝加哥論壇報。
You'll have to excuse me. 你必須原諒我
Sir, you've been dodging my calls 先生，你一直在躲避我的電話
about James Hicks for over a week. 關於詹姆斯·希克斯，躲避我超過一個星期。
I tried talking to PD. 我試着和警署談話
They won't tell me anything, either, 他們什麼也不告訴我，
Why can't I get a statement from anyone? 爲什麼我不能得到任何人的聲明？
What's the big secret? 有什麼大祕密？
Hold this. 拿着。
Tell you what... Why don't you come to the jail 告訴你...你爲什麼不來監獄
and talk to my client yourself? 和我的客戶見見面？
Maybe you can get him to say more to you 也許你可以讓他敞開跟你對話
than he'll say to me. 比對我說的還多
Mr. Hicks, I'm Lee Strobel. 希克斯先生，我是Lee 史特博。
I'm with the, uh... the Chicago Tribune. 我是 芝加哥論壇報 的
I'd like to talk to you about the shooting. 我想和你談談那場槍傷案。
I figured that maybe you'd want to give me, uh, 我想，也許你會想要跟我說説
your side of things... you know, help yourself out a bit here. 你的視角...好幫助你出獄。
I didn't do nothing. 我什麼也沒做。
Okay, so then... so then tell me how it all went down. 好的，那麼... 告訴我整個經過
I don't know. It's fuzzy. 我不太清楚。很模糊。
Joe started shoving me around for no reason. 喬沒有理由的開始推我。
Who's Joe? 誰是喬？
- Koblinsky. - The cop. - 科布林斯基 - 那個警察
Koblinsky. 科布林斯基。
He put his hands on me, 他把手放在我身上，
so I fought back, like anyone would. 所以我反擊，像任何人一樣。
We go at it for a bit, then a gun goes off. 我們爭執了一下，然後就有槍走火了。
- Whose gun? - I don't know. - 誰的槍？ - 我不知道。
Like I told you, I was drinking that night. 就像我跟你說的那樣，那天晚上我喝多了。
- It was fuzzy. - Crime scene report says - 很模糊 - 犯罪現場的報告說到
they found your .22-caliber pistol in the bushes, 他們在樹叢中發現了你的 .22 口徑手槍，
that it was missing a bullet 手槍缺了一顆子彈
and it had your prints all over it. 手槍上有你的指紋。
Koblinsky carries a .38. 科布林斯基 攜帶的卻是 .38 口徑
His gun was never fired. 他的槍從未開過火。
In fact, it was never taken out of its holster, so... 事實上，他的槍從來沒有被拿出皮套，所以...
if you didn't shoot him, then who did? 如果你沒有射他，那麼是誰呢？
My old lady kicked me out that night. 那天晚上我老媽把我趕出家門。
I got a little crazy, 我有點瘋狂，
you know, fired off a round at the building, 在大樓裡開了一槍，
but I didn't aim it at nobody or hurt nobody. 但是我並沒有向著任何人開，也沒有傷害到任何人。
I tossed my piece in the bushes when Koblinsky rode up on me. 當科布林斯基向我出手時，我就把我的槍丟在樹叢裡了。
That's it... he tossed it in the bushes. 只是這樣，他把你的槍扔在樹叢裡了。
I tossed it in the bushes. 我把我的槍丟在樹叢裡了。
Mr. Hicks, are you still affiliated 希克斯先生，你還是
with the Gangster Disciples? 黑幫門徒之一嗎？
You know what this is? 你知道這是什麼嗎？
This is a waste of my time. 這是浪費我的時間。
Guard. 守衛。
Sir, I am trying to help you here, 先生，我正在竭力幫你
and nothing that you've told me is gonna change 你告訴我的什麼都不會改變
the evidence that's stacked against you, 對你疊加的證據
which right now is pretty overwhelming. 現在正是壓倒性的。
What you talking about? You don't know me. 你在說什麼？你不認識我。
Okay, sir, you gotta come up with 好的，先生，你必須要琢磨出
a better excuse than "the dog ate my bullet" 比“狗吃了我的子彈”更好的藉口
if you're gonna beat this thing, Mr. Hicks. 假如你想打贏這場官司，希克斯先生。
Your client's guilty as sin. 你的客戶一定有罪了。
- You know that, right? - Really? - 你早就知道，對吧？ - 真的嗎？
- God loves you and so do I ! - 上帝愛你，我也愛你！
Father Marquez. Lee Strobel. 神父 Marquez. 我是Lee史特博
Thank you for seeing me. l... - Of course. Of course. 謝謝你接見我... - 當然。當然
I, uh... I should tell you 我，啊，我應該告訴你
I'm a bit of a history buff myself, so... 我自己也有一點歷史迷，所以...
Oh. -Yeah, I'm-I'm... I'm particularly intrigued 哦 - 是啊，我是...我是很感興趣
with your archaeological work. 於你的考古工作。
Oh. A former life. 哦。我前任的職責。
Uh, former life, yes. 啊，以前的生活，是的。
I'm a... I'm a bit surprised, given your, uh... 我是一個...我是有點驚訝，考慮到你，啊...
your stellar reputation that you just 你的聲譽很好，但你就這樣
gave all that up for, uh, this. 放下了所有這些，為，這個。
Well, would you like to be more specific? 好，你可以更具體一點嗎？
Well, it just seems to me that, 那麼，在我來看，
for the better part of 2,000 years, 好一個 2000 多年過去了，
Christianity has been creating these... 基督教一直在創造這些...
these rituals and these rules. 儀式和規則。
You know, they've erected these elaborate 你知道嗎，他們已經建立了這些精心設計的
and often expensive cathedrals, 和費用昂貴建造的大教堂，
and all of that to support a faith 所有這些去支持一個信仰
that I believe is-is ultimately built on sand. 我卻相信這個信仰最終是建立在流沙上的。
And yet it's all still standing. 然而，這個信仰依舊站立。
Yes, because people keep telling each other 是的，因爲人們不斷的告訴對方
the same stories over and over again. 相同的故事，一遍又一遍的告訴。
Just because I write something down 但只是因爲我寫下什麼東西
and I bury it in the dirt, that doesn't make it true. 然後把寫下的埋在土裡，並不代表那就是真的。
I think I'm beginning to see the crux of your visit. 我想我開始看到你訪問的關鍵了。
Look, I... 跟你說，我...
I understand that a number of people 我明白有一些人
claimed to have seen Jesus after his crucifixion 聲稱在耶穌被釘十字架後看到耶穌
and some of them even wrote it down, 有些人甚至紀錄下來，
How-how can we be sure 但我們怎麼可以確定
of the reliability of those manuscripts? 這些手稿的可靠性呢？
Well, the same way we authenticate 是通過同樣
by comparing and contrasting 比較和對比
the copies that have been recovered. 去印證發現了的抄本。
It's called textual criticism. 這被稱爲文本考證。
The more copies we have, 擁有越多的抄本，
the better that we can cross-reference 就可以越好的印證
and figure out if what the original was saying 並弄清楚是否原稿所說的
is historically accurate. 在歷史上是準確的。
And the earlier they come from in history, the better. 抄本越是歷史久遠，就越好。
Take Homer's "Iliad," for example. 以“荷馬”的“伊利亞特”爲例。
Marquez Hmm? Marquez先生 嗯？
Is this real? 這是真的嗎？
It's as real as the Macedonian dirt 它與“馬其頓地區”的泥土一樣真實
that I dug it up from. 我親自挖掘的。
Well, the Greeks considered this their Bible 那麼，希臘人把這個當成自己的聖經
- for many centuries. - Yes, they did. 持續了好幾個世紀。 - 是這樣的。
That is one of 1,565 copies in existence today. 這是現存的1,565份抄本，其中的一個。
Now, the "Iliad" was originally composed 跟你說，“伊利亞特”是寫在
- 800 years before Christ. - Okay. - 公元前800年。 - 好的。
This Greek copy is dated at the third century A.D. 這個希臘版本是追溯到公元三世紀
So... 所以...
800... that's-that's... 800... 那就是説...
1,100 years between this copy and the original, yes? 1,100年 在這個抄本和原稿之間，對吧？
Correct. There is only one ancient collection of writings 對。事實上只有一個古代收藏的著作
that has more authenticated copies than the "lliad." 比“伊利亞特”有更多的印證過的抄本。
Can you guess what that is? 你猜是什麼嗎？
You're gonna tell me the Bible. 你會告訴我是 聖經。
The New Testament. 新約聖經。
And how many copies is that? 那是多少份？
To date, archaeologists have recovered 5,843 到目前爲止，考古學家們已經發現了 5,843 個
Greek New Testament manuscripts. 希臘新約的手稿。
That's four times as many as the "lliad." 這是“伊利亞特”的四倍。
- Really? - The earliest fragment - 真的嗎 - 最早的“約翰福音”草紙殘片
of the Gospel of John was found in ancient Egypt, 被發現在古埃及，
and it dates to the second century A.D. 它可以追溯到公元二世紀。
How close is that to the original? 與原稿有多接近？
Less than 30 years. 不到30年。
I have one of the fragments in my collection. 我的收藏中有這一個殘片。
- It's quite a treasure, isn't it? - Hmm. - 這是一個寶藏，不是嗎？ - 嗯
After the New Testament and the "lliad," 剛才提到的 新約聖經 和 “伊利亞特”
runners-up don't even come close. 之後排名的會差好遠。
We only have a hundred copies of Sophocles, 我們只有一百份索福克勒斯，
seven copies of Plato's tetralogies 柏拉圖理想國四部曲只有七份
and only five copies of anything by Aristotle. 亞里斯多德所有作品只有五份。
In fact, if you laid the surviving copies of Aristotle 事實上，如果你疊放“亞里士多德”現存抄本
one on top of the other, it would make barely four feet. 一個在另一個之上，只有四英尺高。
You do the same with surviving copies of the New Testament, 如果你疊放“新約聖經”現存抄本
the stack would be a mile high. 會有一英里高。
Nothing else in history even comes close. 歷史上的其它抄本沒有可比的。
How is that for "reliable"? 足夠“可靠”吧？
Well, Father, I certainly appreciate it. 嗯，神父，我實在很感激。
You've given me a lot of food for thought. 您給了我很多可以思考的事。
Entirely my pleasure. 完全是我的榮幸。
Oh, wow. 哦，哇。
The Shroud of Turin. “都靈裏” 屍布。
That is a fantastic reproduction. 這是一個很棒的複製。
Uh, the actual shroud is in the Cathedral 啊，實際的埋葬布在
of Saint John the Baptist in Italy. 意大利的“都靈主教座堂”。
Under lock and key. 安放在那裡。
Of course. 當然。
No one's ever proven if the shroud 沒有人曾經證明過這個埋葬布
is the actual burial cloth of the Christ, 是基督的實際埋葬布，
but whenever someone looks in those eyes for the first time, 但每當有人第一次看着那雙眼睛時，
the Galilean who hung on the cross two millennia ago 兩千年前掛在十字架上的加利利人
suddenly becomes a real person. 突然變真實的人了。
But why would he do it? 但他爲什麼要這樣做呢？
Why... why allow himself to be killed 爲什麼...爲什麼讓自己被害死
if-if he really is the... the Son of God? 如果他真的是...神的兒子
Why not use his power to defend himself? 而不用自己的大能來救自己？
The answer to that is what got me 答案卻是
out of the dirt and into the church. 什麼讓我從塵埃進入教會的東西。
It's really very simple. 其實很簡單
Love. 愛。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
Love. 愛。
♪ Carry on, my wayward son ♪ ♪ 堅持下去，我任性的兒子 ♪
♪ There'll be peace when you are done ♪ ♪ 當你成就一切時 一切將會平靜下來 ♪
♪ Lay your weary head to rest ♪ ♪ 將你疲憊的腦袋靠著休息一下吧 ♪
♪ Don't you cry no more... ♪ ♪ 別再傷心淚流... ♪
You're saying that the historical Christ 你是說歷史上的耶穌基督
is identical 吻合於
to the religious basis for Jesus Christ? 基督教的教義根基？
Please deposit one dollar to continue talking. （電話機）請投一美元繼續通話。
Dr. Yamaguchi, could you hold for one second, please? 山內博士，你能堅持一會嗎？
Hi. Lee Strobel with the Chicago Tribune. 你好。Lee 史特博 芝加哥論壇報。
How are you, sir? 先生你好嗎？
Dr. Ben Witherington told me he'd be 本·威瑟林頓 博士 告訴我他
letting you know that I'd be calling. 讓你知道我會打電話。
Well, no, I just wanted to check on the validity 好的，我只是想確認一下
of a few historical documents, if I could. 幾個歷史文件的有效性，如果可以。
♪ And if I claim to be a wise man ♪ ♪ 倘若我聲稱自己是個智者 ♪
♪ It surely means that I don't know ♪ ♪ 那實際上意味著我所知甚淺 ♪
♪ On a stormy sea of moving emotion ♪ ♪ 在驚濤駭浪的波動情緒之下 ♪
♪ Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean ♪ ♪ 我恰似一艘在海洋中顛簸的船 ♪
♪ I set a course for winds of fortune ♪ ♪ 我設定一個航向朝著命運的風向前進 ♪
♪ But I hear the voices say ♪ ♪ 但我卻聽到有聲音在說道 ♪
♪ Carry on, my wayward son ♪ ♪ 堅持下去，我任性的兒子 ♪
♪ There'll be peace when you are done ♪ ♪ 當你成就一切時 一切將會平靜下來 ♪
♪ Lay your weary head to rest ♪ ♪ 將你疲憊的腦袋靠著休息一下吧 ♪
♪ Don't you cry no more. ♪ ♪ 別再傷心淚流 ♪
Ah! 啊!
A-one，a-two... 1， 2 ...
a-three. 3。
Three. 3。
How many licks does it take （卡通：） 要舔多少次，
to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? 可以舔到同笑樂軟糖的中心？
The world may never know. 世界可能永遠都不知道
What on earth? 到底怎麼回事？
It's 3:00 in the morning, hon. 才早上3點，親愛的。
- What you doing? - Oh, uh... - 你在幹什麼？ - 哦，啊...
a little research for a story. 一個故事的一點研究。
What's your story on? Imported German beer? 研究什麼？進口德國啤酒？
Oh, the judgment. Here it comes. 哦，論斷來了。
- I'm not judging you. - Bring it on. - 我不是在論斷你。 - 來吧。
I'm worried, hon, that you've been up late every night 我很擔心，親愛的，你這幾天熬夜很晚
or out. 或很晚回來。
I just... I feel like you're not here with me. 我只是...我覺得你心不在焉。
Well, whose fault is that, Leslie? 那是誰的錯，萊斯利？
Okay. 好的。
You've obviously had one too many. 你顯然喝太多啤酒了。
- You're being a jerk. - So this is my fault, then? - 你不講道理， - 那麼這是我的錯，
Sweetheart, 甜心，
I'm not the one who went and changed. You did that. 我不是那個“改變”了的人。妳才是。
I don't know, maybe I wasn't enough for you. 我不知道，也許我滿足不了妳。
Maybe... maybe you had to go find yourself a new man. 也許...也許妳不得不去找一個新人。
- What? - Yes. - 什麼？ - 是的
You're cheating on me. 妳在找小三
With Jesus. 找耶穌
You're hilarious. 你很搞笑
You went off the deep end, and now you're pissed off 妳往深處去，現在妳卻澆熄了
'cause I won't jump in after you. 因爲我不陪妳跳進去。
I'm gonna sit this one out. 我不參與這個討論。
- All right? - Great. - 好吧？ - 太好了
I'm going back to sleep. 我要回去睡覺了
- I'm gonna crash on the couch. - Fine. - 我今晚在沙發上睡 - 好
Hey, I didn't sign up for this, Les! 嘿，我沒有要求過這些，萊斯！
I want my wife back! 我想把我的太太要回來！
Please just tell me what to do. 請告訴我該怎麼辦
Just tell me what to do. 告訴我該怎麼辦
Hey. Good morning. 嘿。早上好。
Did you sleep good last night? 妳昨晚睡得好嗎？
You have sweet dreams? 做了好夢沒有？
- Mm-hmm. - Good. 嗯。 - 好的
Okay, well, I'll see you later, all right, baby? 好的，待會見，好嗎，寶貝？
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
Strobel! 史特博！
Rolling in at the crack of noon. 熬夜一宿，中午才過來
Just trying to get to the bottom 只是想找到
of this cop shooting, chief. 這件槍傷警察案子的真相，主管。
Mm-hmm. By reading Voltaire. 嗯。因著閱讀“伏爾泰”
Can't wait to see how that's gonna play in. 等不及看看會怎樣發生。
Well, that's for something different. 那是為了不同的事。
How long till I'm reading copy? 什麼時候給我過目？
I'm trying, Okay? 我盡力，好嗎？
There's a big story here. I feel it. 這裡有一個很大的新聞。我覺得。
Yeah, I need to feel it right here. 是的，我需要覺得在掌握之中。
I know that, and I'm gonna do my best to make that happen. 我知道，我會盡力做到這一點的。
All right? 好吧？
Oh, excuse me. 哦，對不起
Legal Affairs desk. “法律事務”編輯部。
- Lee Strobel? - Speaking. - Lee史特博？ - 是我。
Yeah, this is, uh, Bill Craig. 這是威廉，柯萊格。
I'm sorry. Who? 對不起。再說一次，誰？
Bill Craig. 威廉，柯萊格。
Dr. Craig, thank you for returning my call. 柯萊格博士，謝謝你的回電。
I appreciate that. 我很感激。
Yeah, I'm sorry for the delay. 是的，對不起延遲了一些
I'm-I'm calling from Jerusalem. 我從耶路撒冷打來。
I have to give a lecture any minute. I just, uh... 我馬上就要去講課。我只是，啊...
I didn't want to keep you waiting. 我不想讓你等待太久。
I'll cut right to the chase. 我直奔主題。
So, I've been doing research 我，我一直在做研究
into the purported resurrection of Jesus, 關於所謂的耶穌的復活，
and I want to run a theory by you. 我想要詢問您一個理論。
Maybe the reason that the tomb was empty 或許墳墓是空的，的原因
was because Jesus' body was never there in the first place. 是因爲耶穌的身體從來就沒在過那裡。
Because we know that the Romans used to throw the bodies of... 因爲我們知道羅馬人拋棄屍體
of, uh, crucifixion subjects to the dogs. 啊，被釘十字架的受難者的屍體給狗。
- Right? -Well, there's no evidence for that, - 對吧？ - 嗯，沒有這樣的證據證明屍體拋棄了，
but there are specific records that didn't happen to Jesus. 但，有詳細紀錄在耶穌身上沒有發生這樣的事。
- And what records are those? - Well, actually, 那些是什麼記錄？ - 實際上，
the earliest recorded accounts tell us that Jesus was properly 最早的記錄告訴我們，耶穌是確切的
buried in a tomb... And the Romans did allow 被埋在墳墓裡，羅馬人確實允許
for burial of some crucifixion victims. 埋葬一些被釘十字架的受難者。
But then there's something that still doesn't add up to me 但是，有些東西依然不合邏輯
about all of these supposed eyewitnesses 關於所有這些所謂的目擊者
that claimed to have found Jesus' empty tomb. 聲稱已經找到了耶穌的空墳墓的人。
What, the fact that they were all women? 事實上，這些人都是婦女？
Yeah, because... because we know that, 是的，因爲... 因爲我們知道，
according to Jewish customs, 根據猶太人的習俗，
women were deemed to be unreliable witnesses. 婦女被認爲是不可靠的證人。
- Am I right? - Well, true. - 我對嗎？ - 嗯，對。
So, why did all four gospel writers record 那麼，爲什麼四福音的作家都記錄下來
that it was women who discovered the empty tomb? 那是婦女發現空墳墓了呢？
It... So I'm asking you that. ...所以我問你。
Well, if you were a first-century Jew 那麼，如果你是第一世紀的猶太人門徒
making up this story out of thin air, 想要捏造這個故事，
then you would never say that women discovered the tomb. 那麼你永遠不會說，婦女們發現了空墳墓。
- It would damage your case, not help it. -Okay. - 會聽起來不像真的。 -好的。
So maybe we're dealing with the world's most inept disciples. 所以也許我們應對的是世界上最無能的門徒。
Or maybe the disciples reported what actually happened 或許門徒報道了客觀發生的事情
and let the chips fall where they may. 並順其自然。
Okay, all right, but you-you have to admit here 好的，沒錯，但是你必須承認
that there is a... there is a gaping hole 這裡有一個...有一個空洞
- in all of this. - A gaping hole? - 在所有這一切中間。 一個空洞？
The-the fact that the gospels are filled 福音書中充滿了
with contradictions about the empty tomb. 關於空墳墓的報導上的差異。
Okay? If I turned in a story that was this jumbled, 好的？如果我交出一個這樣參雜的報導，
I'd be out of a job. 作為記者，我會失業的。
If we look through the gospels, you start at... 如果我們看福音書，你從... 開始
start at Matthew, okay? 從馬太福音開始，好了？
Matthew puts Mary Magdalene and some other Mary at the tomb. 馬太福音敘述 抹大拉的瑪麗亞，和另外一個瑪麗亞到墓前。
You flip over to Mark, he adds Salome. 翻到馬可福音，補充了，撒羅米。
You go to Luke, he adds Mary, mother of James, 再到路加福音，補充了，雅各的母親瑪麗亞，
and then some lady named Joanna. 然後一個名叫約亞拿的女士。
What-what is that? You need a Sherpa guide 這是什麼？你需要一個夏爾巴人嚮導
to sort your way through this mess. 才能帶領你從這個參雜之中走出來
Sure, there are differences, but that 當然有差異，但是
doesn't trouble most historians. 大多數歷史學家並不嫌棄。
Why? Why doesn't that trouble...? 爲什麼？爲什麼不嫌棄？
It troubles me. It should trouble them. 它困擾了我，應該也困擾他們
Because the core of the story is the same in all four. 因爲這四個敘述的核心意思是一樣的。
After Jesus is placed in the tomb, 耶穌被安置在墳墓之後，
it's visited on Sunday morning by a small group of women, 星期天早上有一小群婦女探訪，
and they find the body is gone. 她們發現屍體不見了。
Now, you've studied law. 你，你學過法律。
Yeah, law, yes. 是的，法律，是。
Then you know that, when policemen question 那麼你知道，當警察詢問
several witnesses at a crime scene, they never expect 幾名在犯罪現場的證人時，警察從來沒有打算
the secondary details to be consistent, 次要細節，要一致，
as long as the core account is the same. 只要核心細節相同。
In fact, if they're too similar, it's suspect. 事實上，如果次要細節太相似，反而懷疑準確性。
- That's true. - Well, that's exactly - 是這樣的。 - 對，這
what we're talking about here. 正是我們討論的。
The empty tomb is based on evidence, 空墳墓是以證據爲依據，
and isn't evidence your trade? 你的職業不就是以證據為依據嗎？
It is, yes, but what if... what if the Resurrection 是的，但是， 如果... 如果復活
is one of the historical details 的歷史細節
that was recorded incorrectly? 記錄的不正確，怎麼辦？
How can we know? How can we ever know? 我們怎麼知道？我們怎麼知道？
Lee... Lee...
let me ask you something. 讓我問你一件事
Do you really want to know the truth, 你真的想知道真相嗎？
or is your mind already made up, 還是你以滿足自己的主觀，
- regardless of the facts? - Oh, look, Doc, - 不管真相如何？ - 哦，我跟您說，博士，
I-I'm a journalist, okay? 我是記者，好嗎？
It's my job to challenge assumptions 我的工作是置疑，假設的真相
until they're proven otherwise. 直到證明無可置疑。
That's all I'm doing. 這就是我所做的一切。
Well, I get that. 我瞭解你。
But when is enough evidence enough evidence? 但什麼時候足夠的證據，足夠？
He 's so frustrating. 他非常難相處。
I'm just not good at this, I guess. 我想，我只是不擅長處理這些。
I just... I want to share it with him. 我只是...我想和他分享。
I want to celebrate it, 我想傳揚，
and I'm walking on eggshells in my own home. 我在自己的家裡如履薄冰。
Well, it's probably the same for him. 對他來說可能是一樣的。
He's walking on eggshells, too, so... 他也在如履薄冰，所以...
give yourself a break. 安歇一下。
But the more I try to reach him, 但是我越想接近他，
- the more he pulls away. - Okay, so... - 他躲避越多。 - 好，那...
how did you reach him before? 妳以前怎麼接近他的？
Well, We'd talk. 我們會時常聊聊。
We'd really talk and listen and... 我們會真的傾吐和聆聽...
"Listen." “聆聽。”
Do that. 去聆聽。
Easier said than done. 說比做容易。
芝加哥警署 重燃黑幫重案組
Koblinsky... 科布林斯基...
Koblinsky。 科布林斯基.
Koblinsky. Koblinsky. 科布林斯基。 科布林斯基。
Koblinsky. You gotta be kidding me. 科布林斯基。你開玩笑給我。
Says here that Koblinsky 這裡說 科布林斯基
was Hicks's arresting officer six times. 是希克斯的六次逮捕官。
Obviously, these guys knew each other. 顯然，他們彼此認識。
In fact, when I interviewed Hicks, he slipped up. 事實上，當我採訪希克斯時，他彷彿露餡。
He called Koblinsky by his first name. 他直呼科布林斯基的名字。
So, what's your theory? 那麼你的推斷是什麼？
My theory is that Hicks is an informant 我的推斷是，希克斯是一個臥底
for the gang task force and Koblinsky is his handler. 是警署的黑幫組 派出的，科布林斯基是他的管理人 。
Which means a gang member just shot his own handler 這意味着一個黑幫成員剛剛槍傷了他自己的管理人
and, for some reason, Chicago PD's covering it up. 而且出於某種原因，警署想要隱藏這件事。
PD's protecting this guy. He's a cop shooter. 警署在保護這個人。他是個槍傷警察的人。
I can't run that unless you get me a source inside the PD... 我不能憑空報導，除非你找到警署裡面的線人...
Someone to confirm Hicks is an informant. 有人能確認希克斯是一個臥底。
Well, I'm gonna need a little help. 那，我需要一點經費。
Dinner and drinks only. 只包晚餐和酒。
Well, drinks at least. 好，至少有酒
Bring me back a receipt. 別忘了收據給我。
And don't close the... 不要關（門）...
What do you want from me, Strobe? 你想要什麼，史特博？
It's an open-and-shut case. That's all I know. 這是一樁單純的案子。這是我所知道的。
So, you're... you're on the gang squad. 所以，你是...你是在黑幫重案組。
That's all you know? 你就知道這些？
You gotta give me something. 你得給我一點可報導的
Can... can I get you dinner? ...可以請你吃晚餐嗎？
You like steak? 你喜歡牛扒嗎？
Here's my theory. 這是我的推斷
Koblinsky's on your team, and Hicks is your informant. 科布林斯基在你的小組，希克斯是你們的臥底。
You think that, uh, 你認爲啊
'cause you take down a big car company 只是因爲你爆料了一家大汽車公司
that there's a conspiracy underneath every rock? 就以為什麼地方都有陰謀？
No, don't-don't... Come on, Acosta, 不，不要 - 不要... 來吧，阿科斯塔，
you know that I'm right. 你知道我是對的。
Koblinsky's a hero, okay? 科布林斯基是個英雄，是這樣
No one's taking that away from him. 沒有人想剝奪這個。
But his own snitch shoots him, 但他自己的臥底槍傷他，
and your bosses don't want it getting out. 你的老闆不希望這件事被暴露。
That doesn't look good for your new department, politics 這對你的新部門看起來不大好，服眾
or whatever, I get it. 或什麼的，我懂。
You want to know what I hear? 你想知道我聽到什麼了？
I hear they're gonna knock Hicks's time 我聽說他們會減少希克斯的服刑期
down to petty time in county. 到極少。
They're gonna put him back on the streets. 然後就釋放他了。
They're offering Hicks a plea to keep his mouth shut. 他們同意希克斯自己認罪減刑，好讓他保密。
Now, you don't want that. 你不想要這樣。
Now, all I need to run this story 我報導這個只需要
is one source from the squad. 黑幫重案組的一個線人。
That way, everybody knows Hicks is a stoolie, 這樣，大家就會知道希克斯是一個臥底，
he goes away for a long time, 他會入獄很久，
and, boom, your task force is free of cop shooters. 然後，就這樣，你的警察組再不會遇到槍傷警察的了。
I'm not gonna quote you. I'm not gonna use your name. 我不會引用你的名字。沒人知道是你。
You don't have to go on the record. Nothing. 你不必官方紀錄。什麼都不用。
How about this? 你覺得怎樣？
If I'm even in the right ballpark, 如果我想的很接近事實，
you leave the tip. 你要是出小費，這就是暗號了。
Drop a couple bucks on the table, 放在桌子上幾塊錢，
get up, you walk out of here, 站起來，出門，
I know that I'm safe to run my story. 我就心安報導這件事了
I'll do you one better. 我比你想的做的更好。
I'll pay for the meal. 我會付整頓飯錢的。
It was crap anyways. 這頓飯不好吃。
Now, how confident are you on this? 那你對這件事有多少把握？
Very. 非常。
Okay. 好的。
Get it to the copy desk. 拿到編輯部。
Front page... Green Streak edition. 頭版... 快報。
Uh, and d-don't... 啊，不要關 （門）...
芝加哥警署保護 槍傷警察者 - 派到黑幫的臥底
Lee? Lee？
Hey. 嘿。
I made you coffee. 我給你泡了咖啡
Oh, okay. 哦，好的。
Shut up and take the coffee. 不必說了，只要喝咖啡。
Goodness. 良善老天。
- I wanted to ask you a favor. - Mm-hmm. - 我想求你一件事，嗯。
Uh, the... I'm taking the kids to church. 啊，我會帶孩子去教堂。
Come with us. 跟我們一起去吧。
Why would I do that? 我爲什麼要這麼做？
Because I asked you to... Nicely... and... 因爲我求你...好好求...而且...
because, even though you think I've lost my mind, 因爲，儘管你認爲我被洗腦，
you'd still do anything to make me happy. 你仍然會做任何事讓我開心。
I'm still gonna bring my notebook, 我要帶我的筆跟本，
in case I uncover a church scandal or something. 也許我發現教會的醜聞或什麼的。
Deal. 可以
Get ready to go. 準備出發了。
- 15 minutes. - Mm-mm. - 15分鐘。 - 不要。
♪ When I'm depressed and I get down so low ♪ ♪ 當我憂愁，我沮喪♪
♪ And then I see You coming to me ♪ ♪ 然後我看到你迎著我來 ♪
♪ It's all right ♪ ♪ 一定沒事了 ♪
♪ Oh ♪ ♪ 哦 ♪
♪ You put this love in my heart ♪ ♪ 你把這愛放在我心裡 ♪
♪ You put this love in my heart. ♪ ♪ 你把這愛放在我心裡。 ♪
Some of you have had bad experiences in church before, 你們中有些人在教堂裡有過糟糕的經歷，
and I get that. Churches aren't perfect. 我瞭解。教會不完美。
Pastors aren't perfect. I know I'm not. 牧師也不完美。我知道我自己就不是。
But that's not God. 但那不是神。
That's people. 那是人。
God wants to be your Father. 神想成爲你的父親。
To love you until you know His promise of Heaven. 愛你，直到你知道祂天國的應許。
Because this is the simple truth of our faith. 因爲這是我們信仰的簡單之處。
God made us. 上帝造了我們。
We messed things up. 我們搞砸了事情。
Christ paid for our mess, 基督為我們的失能附上了，
and all we have to do is receive Him. 我們所要做的就是接受他。
It really is as simple as that. 真的很簡單。
Hi. 嗨。
Lee. Lee。
- Hey, Lee. - Hey. Good to see you, Alfie. - 嘿，Lee。 - 嘿。很高興見到妳，阿爾菲。
Good to see you. I see you brought the baby. 也很高興見到你。我看到你帶來了寶寶。
Yeah, yeah. He's growing up. 是啊。他長的好快。
Hey, uh, can I talk to you for a minute? 嘿，啊，我可以跟你聊一分鐘嗎？
Um, sure... sure. 嗯， 當然可以。
Yeah, I just wanted to say that-that... 是啊，我只是想說 那個...
we are grateful, uh, for what you did with Alison. 我們很感激，妳為艾莉森所做的。
- Oh... - And-and we owe you. - 哦，我們欠妳的人情。
And... and-and I-I don't mean that lightly. 我是真心這樣說的。
But now, this whole thing with Leslie, 但現在，萊斯利來教會這件事，
it needs to stop. 它需要停止。
I don't understand. 我不明白。
You're-you're putting ideas in her head. 妳把想法放進她腦袋裡
You're drawing her into... in this, and... 妳把她拉進這個....
and-and I know how this works. I know you folks 我知道這是怎麼一回事。我認識你們
have a mandate, okay? You need to raise money. 有任務，好嗎？你們需要籌款。
You need to get the good news out and all that. 你們需要傳播好消息，等等。
I'm just letting you know 我需要讓妳知道
that you're gonna need to find someone else to recruit. 妳需要另找別人入會。
Lee, your wife is not brainwashed. Lee，你的太太不是被洗腦。
She's seeking God, and I'm just trying to help. 她是在尋求上帝，我只是想幫助她。
She is vulnerable, and you are taking advantage. 她很脆弱，妳正在利用她。
She's my wife, this is our life, 她是“我”的太太，我們的生活是我們的，
and I want you to stay out of it. 我需要妳不要介入。
Now, is that clear? 我講的清楚明白嗎？
All right, come on. 好吧，來吧。
- Let's go. - Well... - 我們走吧。 - 好...
anyhow, see you. 無論如何，再見。
- Okay. - Alison? - 好的。 - 艾莉森？
Come on, sweetie. 來吧，甜心。
Bye. 再見。
Lee. Lee。
Dad. 爸。
There he is. 看寶寶。
Hello, sweetheart. 甜心寶寶，你好。
- Hi. Hi. - Big guy. Oh, he's so sweet. - 你好，你好。 - 大塊頭。 哦，他太甜了
Hi, honey. 嗨，親愛的
Oh, Walt, look at how handsome he is. 哦，沃爾特，看看他有多標緻。
- I'll say. - Oh, he's an angel. - 我想說。 - 哦，他是個小天使。
Yeah. 是啊。
Oh, sweetheart. Oh... 哦，親愛的哦...
You know what, it's time for your nap. 你知道麼，是你小睡的時間。
Nap time, so... 休息時間，所以...
Okay, honey, there you go. 好的，親愛的，你去。
I love his name. 我愛他的名字
What's his middle name? 他的中間名是什麼？
Christopher. Kyle Christopher. 克里斯托弗。 凱爾·克里斯托弗
You didn't use "John" in his name? 你們沒有使用“約翰”在他名字裡？
Walter. 沃爾特。
Kyle Christopher is a beautiful name. 凱爾 克里斯托弗 是一個美麗的名字。
It's a beautiful name, but "John" has been 這是一個美麗的名字，但“約翰”一直是
in the Strobel line for generations. 流傳在 史特博 家族好幾代。
Oh, here we go. 哦，又來了。
Because I didn't want to name my son John, okay? 因爲我不喜歡叫我的兒子 約翰 ，好嗎？
Your grandpa's John. So is your older brother. 你爺爺是約翰，你哥哥也是。
Mm-hmm. It's also the euphemism for a toilet 嗯。 “約翰” 這個詞 是“廁所”的俚語
and the client of a prostitute. 或者形容妓院的客戶。
Lee! Lee！
Really? 真的嗎？
Sorry I brought it up. 對不起我提起這個來了。
Don't know why you guys came anyway. 真的不知道你們爲什麼會來
Nobody invited you. 也沒邀請。
I'm gonna get some air. 我去透透氣。
Leslie, it was lovely to see you. 萊斯利，很高興見到妳。
- Thanks for coming. - Thanks. - 感謝你們的到來。 - 謝謝。
Lee, was that really necessary? Lee，真的有必要嗎？
I learned from the best of 'em, Mom. 我從最好的那裡學到的，媽。
Oh, I just wish the two of you could learn 哦，我只是希望你們兩個可以學習
- to understand each other. - Oh, you know what? - 相互理解 - 哦，你知道嗎？
I wish a lot of things. 我希望很多的東西。
I... What do you want from me? ...你想要我做什麼？
The guy never cared about me my whole life. 這個人一生從來沒有在乎過我。
Now, suddenly, I got kids, 我有孩子了，突然他
and he wants to be best friends? No. 想成爲最好的朋友？門都沒有。
It's too late. 太遲了。
Honey, I'm gonna go do some work. 親愛的，我要去做一些工作。
I'm sorry. I know it's always hard with him. 對不起。我知道他總是很難相處。
That can never happen to us. 這樣的事永遠不會發生在我們身上。
Ray, I'm telling you, I've checked it out. 雷，我告訴你，我已經調查過了。
I've interviewed a dozen 我採訪了十幾個
historians, philosophers, archaeologists. 歷史學家，哲學家，考古學家。
There's all these accounts 有這些證據
of actual eyewitnesses which corroborate each other. 來自實際目擊者，證據互相印證。
People with zero motivation to lie. 這些人沒有必要說謊。
In fact, they should've lied. 事實上他們應該說謊。
Some of them ended up dying for their beliefs. 因為這些人因爲這樣相信而失去生命。
I'm losing my mind, Ray. 我失去理智了，雷。
I wake up every morning, and, um, I think to myself, 我每天早晨醒來，我問我自己，
"Maybe today's the day. “也許今天就是那個日子
Maybe... maybe today she'll come to her senses." 也許今天她會反省過來”。
And she doesn't. 但她沒有。
You know, just gets worse. 你知道，只是變得更糟。
Thing of it is, she's different. 事情是，她變得不同了。
She's actually different. 她真的變不同了。
You know, that's what scares the heck out of me. 你知道嗎，這也是嚇到我的原因。
Just miss my wife. 我只是想念我的太太。
I wish that I could be of more help to you, Lee. 我希望我可以幫你更多，Lee。
But just remember... 但只要記住...
Leslie knows full well that you don't approve of all this, 萊斯利很清楚，你不贊成這一切，
but she is still your wife. 但她還是你的太太。
And you love her very much. 而且你非常愛她。
Just make sure she knows that, too. 只要確定讓她知道這一點。
You're up early. 妳早起了。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
Just 只是
enjoying the quiet. 享受一會兒安靜。
Baby's still sleeping. 寶寶還在睡覺。
You Okay? 妳好嗎？
Yeah. 好。
Just... feeling grateful. 只是...感激不盡。
For you. 因爲你。
For us. 因爲我們。
Yeah. Me, too. 是啊。我也是。
What would you say if we... 妳覺得如果我們...
went out tonight? 今晚出去？
Grabbed some dinner. 買一些晚餐。
Maybe, uh... maybe a little dancing. 也許啊...跳一跳舞。
But just you and me. 只有妳跟我。
No kids. 不帶孩子們。
That be crazy? 這樣會有些怪怪的嗎？
Uh... 啊...
- Little bit? - Yeah. 一點點？ - 是啊
A little bit. 一點點。
Let's do it. 就這麼做吧。
- Yeah? - Mm-hmm. 是啊？ 嗯。
I want to take care of us. 我想善待我們自己
You and only you. 你也只有你
Yeah. 是啊。
Mr. Hicks, do you understand 希克斯先生，你明白嗎
the felony charges that have been 那些重罪
filed against you? 指控你的？
Yes, sir. 是的，先生。
How do you plead? 你認不認罪？
Guilty, sir. 我認，長官。
This is not the first time 這不是我第一次
I've seen you in my courtroom, son. 在法庭上見過你，孩子。
I know you thought you'd be walking away today 我知道你以爲你今天本來可以
with a slap on the wrist, 只是有個輕微的處罰，
but with recent information that's come out in the press, 但是最近在新聞界的那些消息，
well, today you're gonna get some hard time. 今天你的判決會很重
At my discretion, I'm sentencing you 我的判決是，讓你入獄
to a minimum of 15 years 至少15年
at the Joliet State Prison. 在 茱麗葉州 監獄。
Bailiff, take him away. 執法官，把他帶走。
Mr. Hicks. 希克斯先生
Guilty, huh? 認罪，是吧？
We're all guilty of something, reporter, 我們都是有罪的，記者先生，
but I ain't guilty of this. 但我沒犯這個罪。
Okay, so then why not maintain your innocence? 那麼爲什麼不保持你的清白呢？
Why cop a plea? 爲什麼要認罪想要輕判？
Your story didn't give me no choice, did it? 你寫的報導不留給我選擇，留給嗎？
Did your story give me a choice? 你的報導留給我選擇嗎？
Yes, the courtroom was filled with police officers 法庭裡充滿了警察 （電話機上牌子：故障中）
all awaiting the verdict... 都在等待裁決...
Excuse me. 打擾一下。
- Dubois. - He pled out, chief. - 是杜博。 - 他認罪想要輕判，主管。
15 years. 15 年。
I guess your theory panned out, huh? 我看你的推論開始證實了，是嗎？
- Yeah. -Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Hicks, though. - 是啊，誰都不想作現在的希克斯。
The guy's now a cop shooter and a gang informant. 這個人現在是一個槍傷警察的人，和一個曾臥底在黑幫的。
That's gonna be one tough stretch. 那將是很難度過的。
- Yep. - Ten grafs for page one. - 是的 - 報紙第一頁，十段話 。
Yeah. Heading back to you. 再找你。
All right. 好吧。
You know what I was just thinking? 妳知道我在想什麼嗎？
Hmm? 嗯？
I miss you. 我想念妳。
I'm right here. 我就在這。
Yeah? 是嗎？
I wish I could make it more understandable, 我希望我能夠形容清楚，
what I'm going through. 我正在經歷什麼。
I feel like I'm on this journey to the most amazing place 我覺得，我正在抵達人生最妙地方的路上
I've ever been, and I can't take you. 一生沒有過的，可我帶不了你去。
I... I can't even... 我... 我甚至不能..
I don't know how to tell you about it. 我都不曉得如何形容給你。
I'm sorry. 對不起。
Look, Les, I... 萊斯，我...
I understand... 我明白...
that all this feels good right now. 所有這一切現在感覺很好。
I mean, I went to church. I ... 我的意思是我去了教堂...
heard the music. 聽到音樂。
I get that you want this to be true. 我知道妳想要相信這些是真的。
But what if it's not? 但如果不是呢？
Wouldn't you want to know that 妳不想弄清楚
before you've dedicated your entire life to it? 在奉獻一生之前弄清楚嗎？
Of course. 當然。
But what if it is? 但如果是真的，怎麼辦？
What if it is true? 如果是真的呢？
Wouldn't you want to know that? 你不想知道嗎？
There's a verse that says... 有一句經文說到...
faith is the evidence of things we can't actually see. 信是未見之事的確據。
You believe what you can see and touch and feel, 你相信你可以看得到，摸得著，感覺得到的，
and I feel this. 我感覺到這個了。
- I can see it. I - I know it. - Les... - 我能看到它。我認識它。 - 萊斯...
You-you can't. 妳 - 妳不能。
But I... 但是我...
I do. 我能。
It's the same way I know I love you. 這和我知道我愛你是一樣的。
Yeah, but that's... that's different, Les. 是，但那是 ... 不一回事，萊斯。
I'm real. 我是真實的。
I'm-I'm... I'm a person. 我是我 ... 我是一個“人”。
We - we have a relationship. 我們之間有一個真實的關係。
Hon, I know we've been fighting and... 親愛的，我知道我們一直都在爭吵...
it's been weird lately, but... 最近日子怪怪的，但...
I... 我...
I love you more now than I ever have. 我現在比以前更愛你，
Based on what? 基於什麼？
"Based on what?" “基於什麼？”
Honestly, it's since I accepted Jesus. 老實說，自從我接受了耶穌以後。
My love for you 我對你的愛
has only... it's only grown 只有...只有增長
and it's only deepened. 只有更深了。
And if that's not proof of something, 如果這不是些事情的證明，
I don't know what is... 我不知道什麼會是...
No, that's not proof of anything, Les. 不，這不是任何事情的證明， 萊斯。
That's feelings. It's not proof. 那只是感覺。 並不是證明。
And my feelings are a valid experience that-that... 而我的感受是很真實的經歷，它...
- Les, I - I... - They're real to me. - 萊斯，我 ... - 它們對我來說是真實的。
I - I don't like... 我不喜歡...
this version of us. 我們現在的狀況。
I don't... I don't like what you're becoming. 我不...我不喜歡妳要變成的樣子。
And if I'm looking ahead 如果我展望未來
and we're still having this conversation 如果我們還會談這些
five years from now... 五年後還會...
we're having this conversation two years from now... 兩年後還會談論...
I don't want to be there for that. 我不想在那裡為了這個。
Okay? I won't be. 好嗎？我不會在。
I'm gonna check on the kids. 我去看看孩子們。
- We can sit here for a minute. - Okay. - 我們可以坐在這兒一分鐘。 - 好的。
- Okay. Thank you. Okay. - Okay. - 好的。 謝謝妳 。 好的。
Alfie, I'm-I'm losing hope. 阿爾菲，我沒有盼望了。
I'm losing hope for Lee. 我正在失去對Lee的信心。
I'm losing hope for my marriage. 我失去對我婚姻的盼望。
Oh, come on, now. It's gonna be okay. 哦，我們來。會沒事的。
- It'll be all right. - No, - 會沒事的。 - 不，
- I don't know what to do. - All right, okay. - 我不知道該怎麼辦。 - 好吧，好的。
I know that it's scary. 我知道這是件可怕的事。
I do. Trust me. 我瞭解。相信我。
I've been there. 我經歷過。
But I can promise you this. 但我可以向妳保證。
In His time and in His way, 在上帝預定的時間，和以上帝的方法，
God always keeps His promises. 上帝永遠實現祂的應許。
And what did He promise Ezekiel? 祂答應了以西結什麼？
"I will give you a new heart. “我也要賜給你們一個新心。
"I will put a new spirit in you. “將新靈放在你們裡面。
"I will remove from you your heart of stone “又從你們的肉體中除掉石心
and give you a heart of flesh." 賜給你們肉心。”
Now, that's a truth you already know. 這是一個妳已經知道的真理。
Yeah. 是啊。
But it's the same truth for Lee. 在 Lee 身上也一樣。
You just gotta be patient. 妳必須耐心等待。
Okay. 好的。
Thank you. 謝謝妳。
- Thank you. - Oh, come here. - 謝謝。 - 哦，來這裡
You're gonna be fine. 妳會好起來的。
I promise. 我向妳保證。
I promise, I'm praying for both of you. 我保證， 我爲你們兩個祈禱。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
Hey, just because they said they saw Jesus 嘿， 只是因爲他們說他們看見了耶穌
doesn't mean they actually did. 並不意味着他們真的是。
I'm sorry. Was that for me? 對不起。 是跟我說嗎？
Maybe the eyewitnesses to the Resurrection... 也許復活的目擊者...
Maybe they're delusional. You know what I mean? 也許他們是幻視。 你知道我的意思嗎？
Maybe they only thought they saw Jesus. 也許他們只是認為他們看見了耶穌。
Maybe it was, like, mind control or brainwashing. 也許是像心智控制或洗腦一樣。
Rod! 羅德！
You need to see a psychologist. 你需要見一位心理學家。
Oh, you think I got a screw loose? 哦，你覺得我有些精神恍惚？
Yeah, well, that's another story. 嗯，那，那是另一件事。
But if you're talking about first-century mass psychosis, 但如果你在談論，第一世紀的大規模精神病，
you need to talk to a psychologist. 你需要和心理學家談談。
I'm already ahead of you. Rod! 我早就這麼覺得了。 羅德！
- Hey. I need you to find me... - Sorry. - 嘿。我需要你幫我約一個... - 對不起
A good psychologist to interview. 一位有名的心理學家做採訪。
- A ps-psy... - Psychologist. That's right. - 心理學家 - 心理學家。 沒錯。
A guy with... with a lot of academic street cred. 一個有着，有着很多學術頭銜的人。
Knows the human mind better than God does. 比上帝還瞭解人心的人。
No pressure, kid. 沒有壓力，孩子。
Don't listen to him. 不要聽他的。
Dr. Roberta Waters, president 羅伯塔 沃特斯 博士。
of the American Association of Psychoanalysts, agnostic... 美國精神分析協會的主席，不可知論...
Ah, agnostic. Finally. 啊，不可知論者, 總算遇到。
And a leading authority 和一個研究 人類行爲 的權威人士
on human behavior at Purdue University. 來自普度大學
Indiana. Great. 印第安納州。 好吧。
Dr. Waters. 沃特斯 博士
Ah. Hello, Mr. Strobel. 啊。史特博先生，您好！
As much as I would like 不管我多想
to help a fellow skeptic, 幫助一個與我同樣持懷疑態度的人，
what you're proposing is completely impossible. 你提出的是完全不可能的。
But how can you say that? 妳怎麼能這麼說呢？
I mean, if Charles Manson can turn his followers into... 我的意思是，如果查爾斯·曼森可以把他的追隨者變成...
murderous zombies, surely the followers of the Christ cult 變成無頭腦的殺手。那麼基督的瘋狂追隨者
could be convinced of their own delusions. 也可以被說服出他們的幻想。
Listen, hallucinations are like dreams. 跟你說，幻覺就像夢一樣。
They happen in individual minds. 它們發生在每個人的腦海裡。
They don't spread like the common cold. 它們不像流行感冒一樣蔓延。
Okay, so... a hypnotist 好，那，有一個催眠師
turns a stage full of insurance salesmen into... 將好多個保險經紀催眠成...
into clucking chickens... Then that's... 咯咯叫的一群雞...那不是...
that's not really happening or...? 那不是真的發生了嗎？
No, of course it is. 當然是發生過。
The power of suggestion can be very profound. 暗示的力量可以非常強大。
But it's one thing to be mesmerized 被催眠
into making animal noises. 去學動物的叫聲是一回事。
It's quite another for 500 people 500個人
to have the same dream. 有同樣的夢境是另一回事。
To be honest, that would be an even bigger miracle 說實話，500人相同夢境，是一個更大的奇蹟
than the Resurrection itself. 比復活本身，奇蹟還大。
And without an empty tomb, 如果沒有一個空的墳墓，
you and I, we're not even having this conversation. 你和我，我們甚至沒有這個談話。
If Jesus recovered from his injuries, 如果耶穌從受傷中恢復過來
that solves that problem. 就解決了這個問題。
All these people could have easily seen him, yes? 所有這些人都可以很容易地看到他，對嗎？
Yes, but I'm afraid that's not a brain issue. 是的，但恐怕那不是關於人腦的問題。
You need to speak to a medical doctor. 你需要採訪一個醫生。
Of course. 當然。
Dr. Waters, again, thank you for your time. 沃特斯博士，再次感謝妳的時間。
You've been most gracious. 妳是最親切的
Before you go, may I ask you something? 在你走之前，我可以問你件事嗎？
Sure. 當然。
It's about your father. 是關於你的父親。
I'm just curious what your relationship 我只是好奇你跟他的關係
with him is like. 如何。
Um... 嗯...
Complicated. 複雜。
Let me guess. 讓我猜猜。
Distant, cold, doesn't give much affirmation 遙遠，寒冷，不給予太多肯定
or express love? 或是表達愛？
Guilty on all charges. 您全說中了。
Why? 爲什麼要問？
I imagine, as a skeptic, 我想像，作爲一個懷疑的無神論者，
you're familiar with history's great names in atheism. 你熟悉歷史上無神論偉大的名字。
Hume, Nietzsche, Sartre, Freud. 休謨，尼采，薩特，弗洛伊德。
Of course, yes. Some of my greatest heroes. 當然。這些人是我的英雄。
Did you know that all of them had a father 你知道他們都有一個父親
who either died when they were young, 不是在他們年幼時就過世，
abandoned them, 就是放棄了他們，
was physically or emotionally abusive? 或是身體上，情感上的虐待？
In the world of therapy, 在心裡治療界，
it's called a father wound. 它被稱爲 父親的創傷。
No, I... I was not aware of that. 不，我...我沒有意識到這一點。
But with all due respect, Dr. Waters, 儘管我尊重您， 沃特斯 博士，
I did not have a loving father, but that doesn't mean 我是沒有一個愛我的父親，但這並不意味着
that I have a problem with those who do. 我對那些有好父親的人有偏見。
What I have a problem with is some made-up loving father. 我的問題是針對一個虛構的 愛的天父。
If God was real... 如果上帝是真實的
I could accept that He loves me. 我也可以接受祂愛我
I just don't believe He is. 我只是不相信祂是真實的。
I don't disagree. 我並不反對。
Well, unfortunately, 不幸的是，
my wife does. 我的太太這樣認為。
The problems that it's currently causing my marriage 目前困擾我婚姻的問題
are very real. 是非常真實的。
Again... 再一次...
thank you. 謝謝妳。
"I will give you a new heart “我也要賜給你們一個新心
"and put a new spirit in you. “將新靈放在你們裡面。
"I will remove from you your heart of stone “又從你們的肉體中除掉石心
and give you a heart of flesh." 賜給你們肉心。”
"I will give you a new heart “我也要賜給你們一個新心
"and put a new spirit in you. “將新靈放在你們裡面。
"I will remove from you your heart of stone “又從你們的肉體中除掉石心
and give you a heart of flesh." 賜給你們肉心。”
集體幻覺是比復活更大的奇蹟
去採訪醫生
Oh, interview... 哦，採訪...
Alexander Metherell. 亞歷山大·梅思里爾。
Found you. 找到你了。
California. 加利福尼亞。
Better than Wisconsin. 比威斯康辛強。
Uh, Mr. Strobel? 啊 史特博 先生？
- Yeah? - You have a visitor. - 在這？ - 你有訪客。
Hey. Officer Koblinsky. 嘿。科布林斯基官員
How you feeling? 你感覺如何？
Eh, getting there. 啊，快好了。
Good. Thanks, 羅德. 好。謝謝你，羅德。
Just wanted to come by and, uh, you know, 只是想來，啊，你知道，
say thanks for the story, for telling the truth. 感謝你的報導，感謝你報導真相。
Yeah, well, it's my job 嗯，這是我的工作
and, uh, in this case, my pleasure. 啊，在這件事上，是我的榮幸。
Yeah. 是啊。
So, you got everything you need on Hicks? 那麼，你已經調查了全部有關希克斯的？
Wrapping the story up? 好讓報導結尾？
Yeah, well, that's... that's all done. 嗯，好的，已經結尾了。
Uh, you don't have to worry about him shooting anyone 啊，你不必擔心他再槍傷其他任何人了。
- for another, uh, 15 years. Ooh. -Uh, - 15年 不用擔心。 哦。 -啊，
still have bullet fragments in my spleen. 我的脾臟裡仍然有子彈碎片。
- Ah, right, I forgot. - Yeah. - 啊，對，我忘了。 - 是啊
Price for doing my job, I guess, huh? 我工作的代價，是吧？
Right. 對。
- Thanks again, Strobel. - Yeah. Feel better. - 再次感謝你，史特博。 - 儘快好起來。
Not sure why you want to do this now. 不明白你爲什麼要現在做這些。
Hicks has already been sentenced. 希克斯已經被判刑了。
Just humor me, Marlow. 遷就我，馬洛。
And here's what's weird. 怪就怪在這個地方。
He's got... 他在...
bullet fragments in his spleen, 脾臟中有子彈碎片，
but the entry wound is up here. 但槍傷口在這裡。
It's-it's as if... it's as if the weapon barrel 就好像，好像槍筒
was pointing inside the breast pocket. 朝著胸前口袋裡面開槍。
Yeah, you can see the powder burns right there. 是的，你可以看到槍的粉墨燒了那裡。
Now, a couple years back, 我幾年前，
I was doing research on concealed weapons. 研究過僞裝武器。
People disguising firearms 人把槍僞裝起來
as cigarette lighters, belt buckles. 譬如打火機，皮帶扣等等。
That's a pen. 那是一支鋼筆。
It's a writing utensil. 它是一個書寫用的器具。
Is it? 是嗎？
What is that? 那是什麼？
Spent shell casing. 開槍後留下的空殼。
That, Mr. Marlow, is a gun. 這個，馬洛先生，是一隻槍。
That is a... 這是一隻...
a .22-caliber pen gun. 一個.22口徑的鋼筆槍。
Look at that right there. 看看這裡
That's what shot Koblinsky. 這就是射擊 科布林斯基的。
This is illegal, for any cop 這是非法的，如果任何警察
to carry a weapon like this while on duty. 在值班時攜帶這樣的武器。
How could nobody have seen this? 為什麼沒有人發現這個？
'Cause nobody was looking for it. 因爲沒有人懷疑會有它。
Koblinsky had a secret. 科布林斯基 有一個祕密。
He played the victim card, and I bought it. 他裝成受害者，我被騙了。
Well, so did the cops. 那些警察也是如此。
Unbelievable. 難以置信。
He's actually innocent. 希克斯實際上是無辜的。
He was wrongfully prosecuted, is what he is. 他被冤枉了，被誤判了。
You gotta get back to that judge. 你得回到法官那裡，告訴他。
You gotta get Hicks out of lockup. 把希克斯從牢獄中救出來。
Can you get this stuff in... 你能把這些東西...
I got it. I got it. Just, you go. 我能。我能。你快去。
How could you miss this?! 你怎麼能錯過這麼大的事？
Koblinsky played me. 科布林斯基耍了我
No. 不是。
You let yourself get played, Mr. Best Seller. 暢銷書作家，你自己讓自己被耍，
And you put the integrity of this paper at risk, 你讓整個報社的信譽受損，
not to mention putting an innocent man in harm's way. 更不用說讓無辜的人瀕臨傷害。
Whatever's been distracting you lately, 不管最近什麼讓你分心，
it got in the way of your reporting. 它影響了你的報導。
Now, go write me a retraction. 現在就去，去寫撤稿聲明。
I gotta call downstairs and have them hold the presses 我快打電話到樓下，讓他們先不要印
so we can remake A-1. 所以我們可以重印 A-1 重要篇幅。
Yes, sir. 好的，先生。
After this, um... 這事過後，嗯...
I'd like to take a few personal days, if I could. 我想要使用幾天我的年假，如果可以的話。
Take more than that. 多用幾天也沒事。
Get me Production. 接通我到印刷部。
Leslie Strobel， 萊斯利 史特博,
today is very much like a wedding ceremony. 今天的儀式就好像婚禮。
By taking the step of baptism, you are publicly proclaiming 通過洗禮的步驟，妳是在公開宣揚
that you are a follower of Jesus. 妳是耶穌的追隨者。
Do you believe He is your Savior 妳相信他是妳的救主
and died for your sins? 爲妳的罪而死？
I do. 我相信。
And is it your desire to make that belief public 妳是否願意將妳的信仰公開
(b)' being baptized? （藉著）受洗？
Yes. Yes, it is. 是。是的。
Then... 那...
it is my privilege to baptize you 我很榮幸的給妳施洗
in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. 以聖父，聖子，聖靈的名。
Thank God. 感謝上帝。
Where were you? 你去哪了？
I was just out celebrating on my own. 我只是自己私下慶祝。
- Okay. -And then I remembered that I need to go - 好的。 然後我記得我需要
to Los Angeles tomorrow, so I have to pack a bag. 明天去洛杉磯，所以我必須打包行李。
No, no, no, no. Los Angeles? No, no. 不，不行。洛杉磯？不，不行。
What happened today? 今天發生什麼事？
- You left. You left. - Uh-huh. - 你離開了。你離開了。 - 嗯。
- What happened? - Well, I didn't want to... - 發生了什麼？ - 嗯，我不想...
I didn't want to interrupt the wedding festivities. 我不想打擾妳婚禮的慶祝。
It's... that's a big deal. Congrats. 這是很大的一件事。 恭喜。
- It's a metaphor. - Uh-huh. - 這是一個暗喻。 - 嗯。
You know what a metaphor is, right? 你知道暗喻是什麼，對吧？
You're a smart guy, Lee, right? Lee，你是個聰明人，對吧？
- Married to Jesus. Yep. - Hey. Come here. - 結婚給耶穌。 是的。 - 嘿過來。
Come here. Listen to me. 過來。 聽我說。
Today was important to me. You know that. 今天對我來說很重要。 你知道的。
I don't understand how you could just... 我不明白你怎麼能...
- That makes two of us, Leslie. - Lee, I'm trying here! - 我們兩個都不明白，萊斯利。 - Lee，我在努力！
- I know you're trying. - I'm trying... Hey, listen! - 我知道妳正在努力。 - 我正在努力... 嘿，聽我！
I know you're trying. 我知道妳正在努力。
- I can feel you trying, Leslie. - Can you? - 我可以感覺到妳努力，萊斯利。 - 你可以嗎？
I am. I'm trying. I'm tr... 我是。我在努力。 我在...
Behind closed doors every day, hoping 關著門，盼望
- and praying that you can... - Yeah. - 並祈禱，妳可以... - 是的。
Fix me up so I'm good enough for the Almighty. 把我改好， 所以我對全能的神來說足夠好。
- Is that what you want? - You need to leave. - 那是妳要的嗎？ - 你需要離開。
- I'm not gonna go. - You need to sleep it off. - 我不會去。 - 你需要睡個好覺。
- I'm not gonna leave my own house. - Sleep it off. - 我不會離開我自己的家 - 睡個覺就好了。
- Sleep it off. - No. This is my house! - 睡覺 - 不，這是我的家！
- I'm not gonna leave! - Lee, get out! - 我不會離開的！ - Lee，出去！
- It's my house! It's my family! - Get out! - 這是我的家！ 這是我的家庭！ - 出去！
Daddy, stop being mean to Mommy. 爸爸，不要對媽媽這麼壞。
- Alison, what are you doing? Get upstairs now! -LESLIE: Hey. - 艾莉森，妳在做什麼？ 上樓去！ -萊斯利：嘿。
- Keep your voice down! - Go! - 小一點聲！ - 走！
- You just go to California. Just go. - 你去加州吧。去吧。
You and only you, hon, right?! 你也只有你，親愛的，對吧？！
You and only you. 你也只有你
Until something better comes along. 直到有更好的了。
Hi. 嗨。
Daddy's sorry. 爸爸很抱歉。
He didn't mean to scare you. 他並不想要嚇到妳。
Hi. 妳好。
Father... 天父...
give Lee a new heart. 給Lee一個新的心。
Put a new spirit in him. 將新靈放在他身上。
Remove from him his heart of stone 從他肉體中除掉石心
and give him a heart of flesh. 賜給他肉的心。
So, forgive me for making you 所以，原諒我讓你
travel all the way out here, but... 這麼遠來見我...
when someone rings me up and says he wants to dispute 當有人打電話給我，並說他想辯論
the most significant event in human history, 人類歷史上最重要的事件，
I feel it's important that we do it face-to-face. 我覺得我們必須見見面。
- Don't you? - Yeah, that's fine. 你不這樣覺得嗎？ - 嗯，沒事。
I, uh... I appreciate your time. 我，啊... 感謝你抽時間給我
So, my line of attack is this: 我的論點是這樣的：
The reason the eyewitnesses 之所以目擊者
were able to see Jesus after Golgotha 在耶穌釘十架在各各他之後能夠看到耶穌
is because he never died on the cross. 是因爲耶穌從未在十字架上死亡。
Because, if he doesn't die, there's no resurrection. 如果他沒死，就沒有復活可言了。
- Yes? - That's right. - 對嗎？ - 對。
So... so, whether or not Jesus himself or, uh... 所以...所以，不管耶穌自己，還是...
or someone else took him off of the cross early 別人提前把他從十字架上取下來
or if he fakes his own death, it doesn't matter. 或者他裝死，都無關緊要。
It completely discounts every aspect of the Resurrection. 這會對復活的每個方面大打折扣。
Right. The swoon theory. 對。“昏厥”理論。
Yeah, well, he passed out. He didn't die. 是，啊，他昏過去了。他沒有死。
I'm afraid there's a long line of skeptics in front of you 恐怕有一長串的懷疑者在你之前
with that hypothesis. 有過這個假設。
Including only a billion Muslims the world over 包括世界上十億的回教徒
who also don't believe that Jesus died on the cross 他們也不相信耶穌在十字架上死亡
because the Koran says so. 因爲古蘭經告訴他們。
With all due respect to Islam, 我帶著對回教的尊重，
the Koran was written six centuries after Christ. 古蘭經是在基督後六個世紀寫成的。
I prefer my historical sources 我更喜歡我的歷史資料來自
- a bit closer to actual events, yeah? - I understand. - 更接近事件的年代， 是嗎？ - 我明白。
But-but you concede that it's possible. 但是，你總覺得耶穌沒死是可能的。
Mr. Strobel, I am a medical doctor and a scientist. 史特博先生，我是醫生和一個科學家。
I have seen a great many strange phenomenon 我看到了許多奇怪的現象
- in my lifetime. - Mm-hmm. - 在我一生中。 - 嗯。
But the swoon theory is rubbish. 但是“昏厥”理論站立不住。
"Rubbish." “站立不住。”
That's a... is that a... a medical opinion? 這是一個...一個醫療上的見解嗎？
Yeah. It is, actually. 是啊。實際上是這樣
Um... 嗯...
swoon theorists tend to skim over the fact “昏厥”理論者往往忽略
that Jesus was flogged prior to his crucifixion. 耶穌在被釘十字架前，被嚴重鞭打過的事實。
Do you know what happens in a Roman flogging? 你知道羅馬鞭打是怎麼一回事嗎？
Um, yeah, the person is lashed with a whip. 嗯，是的，某個人被鞭子打。
No, not lashed. 不，不只是打而已
Scourged and pummeled savagely. 兇殘地被鞭打和重揍。
You see, the... the cowhide whip 你看，牛皮鞭
is braided with metal balls and bone fragments. 編織進去金屬球和骨的碎片。
The flesh on Jesus' back would've been shredded. 耶穌背上的肉會被撕碎了。
The very muscles and sinews themselves 肌肉和筋骨
laid open to exposure. 皮開肉綻。
The flogging itself would have left Jesus 鞭打本身就使耶穌
in critical condition from massive blood loss. 處於嚴重失血的情況下。
Which is why he collapsed under the weight of the cross 這也是爲什麼他，在背著沉重的十字架走時崩潰了
that the Romans made him carry through town. 羅馬人使他背著過城鎮。
Mm-hmm. Okay, so is it possible 嗯。好的，那耶穌
that Jesus survives being spiked to the cross? 可能在剛釘上十字架時還活著？
Well, yes, you could survive it, 嗯，是的，那時還可以存活，
but it's child's play 但那才只是開始
compared to what comes next in a crucifixion. 相比於釘十字架的過程。
Slow, agonizing death by asphyxiation. 緩慢，難以忍受的窒息而死。
Come with me. 跟我來。
The stress on Jesus' chest muscles 耶穌胸部肌肉受到的壓力
would have locked his lungs into the inhale position. 將他的肺部鎖在向內吸氣的位置。
Right, so in order to let the breath out, 對，所以爲了讓氣呼出來，
he would have had to shove himself up 他不得不把自己挺起來
using his spiked wrists and feet, 用他釘著鋼釘的手腕和腳，
scraping his shredded back against the wood of the cross. 他皮開肉綻的後背也會刮到十架的木頭。
And then sagged back down again 然後再讓自己放下垂
in order to draw his next breath, 爲了呼下一口氣，
which he would have had to have done 他必須這樣重複
over and over and over again 一遍，一遍又一遍
until utter exhaustion just made it impossible. 直到能量耗盡，使呼吸不可能了。
And then, inevitably... 然後，不可避免地...
He dies. Uh, in... in theory. 他死了。 啊，在理論上。
But let's-let's remember, 但，但我們知道，
these soldiers, they're not doctors, okay? 這些士兵，他們不是醫生，好嗎？
So maybe, uh... 那麼也許
maybe they took him off the cross and they... 也許他們把他從十字架上拿下來，他們...
they thought he was dead but, in fact, he wasn't. 他們以爲他已經死了，但實際上沒有。
No, of course they weren't medical doctors. 不，他們當然不是醫生。
They were professional killers. 他們是專業殺手。
Right, and they were quite good at their jobs. 對， 他們相當擅長他們的工作。
They had to be. If a prisoner escaped alive, 他們必須是。如果一名囚犯活着逃脫了，
they themselves would be executed. 他們自己會被處決。
Mr. Strobel, the crucifixion of Jesus 史特博先生，耶穌釘十字架
is one of the best-attested events in the ancient world. 是古世紀，最充分證明了的事件之一。
And, if you will, the final nail in the coffin 而且，如果你願意，最後推倒
in the swoon theory is this: 這個“昏厥”理論的是：
When the soldiers thrust their spear 當士兵用他們的槍刺
between Jesus' ribs, do you know what came out? 在耶穌的腋下時，你知道什麼流出？
Blood and water. 血和水。
Which we now know 我們現在知道
is a description of pericardial effusion 是描述了“肺部積水”
as a result of death by asphyxiation. 由於窒息導致的。
This is not a condition anyone could fake. 這不是任何人可以僞造的。
And so, to answer your question, 所以，回答你剛才的問題，
yes, it is my medical opinion 是的，這是我的醫療上的見解
that Jesus Christ died on that cross. 耶穌基督的確在十字架上死了。
Excuse me, Doctor? 對不起，醫生？
- I just need your signature. - One moment. - 我只需要你的簽名。 等一會兒。
Yeah, but-but-but... I got a... 是的，但是但是... 我有一個...
I - I have a real problem 我有一個真正的問題
with most of the experts that I've talked to here. 針對我採訪過的大多數專家。
Which is? 是什麼？
Which is that most of them are not impartial. 他們大部分都不是無偏見的。
And if I'm gonna take a guess, 如果讓我猜，
I would say that you are not, either. 我也會說你也不是。
And you would be correct, sir. 先生，你會是對的。
Though I have learned that most impartial travelers 但我知道最無偏見的
who undertake this journey 行走這條路的人
rarely remain so. 很少把持得住。
However, I can refer you 但是，我可以提供給你參考
to one of the most impartial sources that I know. 我所知道的最無偏見的來源之一。
Would you trust 你會相信
the Journal of the American Medical Association? 美國醫學協會雜誌？
Of course. 當然。
It is a stellar scientific journal. 這是一部很棒的的科學期刊。
Even I will admit that. 就連我也承認。
- "On the Physical Death of Jesus." -Mm-hmm. - “關於耶穌的肉身死亡”。 嗯。
"Clearly, the weight of the medical and historical evidence “顯然，醫療和歷史證據的重量
"indicates that Jesus was dead before the wound “表示耶穌在
"to his side was inflicted. 他肋旁被刺之前已經死了。
"Accordingly, interpretations based on the assumption “因此，所假設的想法
"that Jesus did not die on the cross “耶穌沒有在十字架上死去
"appear to be at odds “似乎是不對的
with modern medical knowledge." 與現代醫學知識不吻合“。
Doc, I gotta tell you, you're, uh... 醫生先生，我要告訴你，你...
you're not telling me what I hoped to hear today. 你沒有告訴我，我今天希望聽到的。
Lee? Lee？
Hey, it's me. 嘿，是我
Everything all right? 一切都好嗎？
Kids okay? 孩子們好嗎？
Sweetheart... 親愛的...
it's your father. 是你的父親。
"My help comes from the Lord, “我的幫助從，
"the Maker of Heaven and Earth. “造天地的耶和華而來。
"He will not let your foot slip. “他必不叫你的腳搖動。
"He who watches over you will not slumber. “保護你的必不打盹。
"Indeed, He who watches over Israel “保護以色列的
"will neither slumber nor sleep. “也不打盹也不睡覺。
"The Lord watches over you. “保護你的是耶和華。
"The Lord is your shade at your right hand. “耶和華在你右邊蔭庇你。
"The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. “白日，太陽必不傷你，夜間，月亮必不害你。
"The Lord will keep you from all harm. “耶和華要保護你，免受一切的災害。
"He will watch over your life. “他要保護你的性命。
"The Lord will watch over your coming and going “你出你入，耶和華要保護你
both now and forevermore." 從今時直到永遠。”
In the name of the Father and the Son 以聖父，聖子
and the Holy Spirit. 聖靈的名。
伊利諾伊州 駕照
Strobel Joins Tribune Staff 史特博 加入論壇報
You Okay? 你還好嗎？
Did you know he had this in his wallet? 妳知道爸爸在他的錢包裡有這個嗎？
Yes. 知道。
You know, your father, 你知道嗎，你的父親，
he was proud of everything you ever accomplished. 他爲你一切的成就感到自豪。
Look, he didn't know how to say it very well, 他只是不知道怎麼表達，
but he loved you, son. 但他愛你， 兒子。
He really loved you. 他真的很愛你
Okay? 好嗎？
The Arlington Bulletin 阿靈頓公告
Lee的文章
Cop gets immunity in investigation of shooting arrest 警察為逮捕射擊者的調查而獲得赦免
Union agent convicted of extortion, tax fraud 工會代理人犯有敲詐罪、騙稅罪
80 nations were represented... 有80個國家代表...
I'm going camping, 我要去露營，
and I'm bringing an apple... 我會帶一個蘋果...
a banana... 和一根香蕉...
and a chinchilla. 和毛絲鼠。
I'm going camping, and I'm gonna bring an apple... 我要去露營，我會帶一個蘋果...
a banana, uh... 和一根香蕉...啊
- Is he okay? - Mm-hmm. - 他還好嗎？ 嗯。
Whatever you said and... 你說的那個，和...
- A chinchilla. - A chinchilla... - 毛絲鼠 - 毛絲鼠...
savagely beaten in a prison fight 在監獄中遭野蠻毆打
- at Cook County Jail today. - And a donkey. -Sweetie, - 今天在庫克縣監獄。 - 還有小驢 -甜心，
- hold on, hold on, hold on. - Sources inside the prison - 等一下，等一下。 - 監獄裡的消息
say Hicks was targeted by gang members 說希克斯被黑幫攻擊
as a result of recent news 因為最近新聞報導
identifying him as a police informant. 說他是警察派出的臥底。
It is believed that the prison guards 相信監獄的看守
did little to protect Hicks, 沒有保護希克斯的意圖，
a fate not uncommon for cop shooters. 這樣的對待，對於槍傷警察的人，並不稀奇。
Hicks was immediately taken to Mercy Hospital, 希克斯立即被帶到慈愛醫院，
where he's in serious condition. 他身處狀況嚴重。
Elsewhere in Chicago, the wind is expected to kick up 在芝加哥的其它地方，預計會颳強風
this evening over the lake and continue... 今晚從湖邊颳起...
How's... how's he doing? 他怎麼...他怎麼樣？
Been in and out. 一會昏迷，一會清醒。
Mostly out. 大部分時間昏迷。
Mr. Hicks? 希克斯先生？
Mr. Hicks, it's Lee Strobel. 希克斯先生，是Lee史特博。
Just wanted to say that, um... 只是想說，嗯...
that it's my fault. 是我的錯。
I... 我...
I'm... I missed the... the truth. 我...我錯過了真相。
I'm-I'm sorry. 我很抱歉。
I just... didn't see it. 我只是... 沒看到
You didn't want to see it. 你不想看到真相。
What's that? 你說什麼？
You didn't want to see it. 你不想看到真相。
I've hit a brick Wall. 我撞到一面牆。
I have read through every book you've given me. 我讀過你給我的每一本書。
I've gone through every argument. 我經歷了每一個探討。
I've followed every lead. 我遵循了每一個線索。
At some point, young man, you're going to have 到一定程度，年輕人，你得
to plant your flag on a mountain of uncertainty, 在不確定性中豎立旌旗，
where not every question is answered. 不是每個問題都有答案。
The human mind will never get to the bottom 人類的頭腦永遠不會揭開
of every mystery in the cosmos. 宇宙中的每一個奧秘。
Believing in God, not believing in God... 相信神，不相信神
Either way, still takes a leap of faith. 無論是哪一個，依然需要 勇敢邁出信心的一步。
So you're saying, 所以你說，
even in our disbelief, 即便我們不信神，
that we still take a leap of faith. 我們還是需要勇敢邁出信心的一步。
More or less. 或多或少。
Me, well, I've come to my own conclusion. 我，我已經有我自己的定論了。
You're gonna have to do the same thing for yourself. 你也要爲自己做同樣的事。
What are you doing here? 你在這裡做什麼？
I thought you were banished. 我以爲你被放逐了。
Hey. 嘿。
What's the matter? 怎麼了？
You people and your God. 你們這些人和你們的神。
You just... you know, you talk in circles. 你只是... 你知道， 你們總是陳詞濫調。
You offer... you offer just enough evidence 你提供...你只提供剛剛夠的證據
but never enough to be conclusive. 但從來沒有足夠，去做出結論。
Then you fill in all the gaps with, 然後你用來填滿空白的是，
"Oh, well, yeah, you just gotta have faith." “哦，嗯，是的，你只要有信心。”
It's a bunch of nonsense. 全是一堆廢話
You're really irritating, you know that? 你真的很煩，你知道嗎？
Don't start with me, Kenny. 不要挑我毛病，肯尼。
You don't waste a lick of time 你不浪費一點時間
bragging to all of us how great a reporter you are. 吹噓你記者作得多好。
So, why can't you put up or shut up on this story? 那麼，爲什麼你不能接受或放下這個故事呢？
What are you even talking about? 你到底說什麼？
Here's where the chili meets the cheese, my friend. 這裡是事實真相揭曉的時候，我的朋友。
One of my heroes was C.S. Lewis, 我的一個英雄是魯益師，
a man who began as a skeptic, much like yourself. 一開始是充滿懷疑的無神論者，很像你自己。
At the end of his journey, you know what he said? 在人生旅程快要結束時，你知道他說什麼嗎？
He said, if Christianity is false, 他說，如果基督教是假的，
it's of zero importance. 那對誰都無關重要。
But if it's true, 但如果基督教是真的，
there's nothing more important in the entire universe. 在全宇宙再沒有比這件事更加重要的了。
So, you want your wife back? 那麼，你想要奪回你的太太嗎？
Well, hey, guess what, people in hell want ice water. 嘿，你知道嗎，地獄裡的人想要冰水。
Not everybody gets everything they want. 不是每個人都能得到他們想要的一切。
Stop blaming me and the Church and God, 停止責備 我，教會，或上帝，
and do your job. 做你的工作。
Stack up the evidence, follow the facts, 堆疊證據，追尋事實，
and write the story, win or lose. 報導故事，贏或輸。
Good night. 晚安。
Father, please... 天父，求您...
please soften Lee's heart. 求您軟化Lee的心
Put a new spirit in him. 將新靈放在他身上。
Remove from him his heart of stone, 從他肉體中除掉石心
and give him a heart of flesh. 賜給他肉的心。
The only way to truth is through facts. 真理的唯一途徑就是通過事實。
The entire Christian faith 整個基督教信仰
hinges on the resurrection of Jesus. 取決於耶穌的復活
If it didn't happen, it's a house of cards. 如果復活沒有發生，就經不起考驗了。
No, you just have to show 不，你只需要表明
that Jesus died and he was seen afterwards. 耶穌死了，他後來被看見。
How can we be sure 但我們怎麼可以確定
of the reliability of those manuscripts? 這些手稿的可靠性呢？
Archaeologists have recovered 考古學家們已經發現了
5,843 Greek New Testament manuscripts. 5,843 希臘新約的手稿。
Nothing else in history even comes close. 歷史上的其它抄本沒有可比的。
Would you trust the Journal 你會相信
- of the American Medical Association? - Yes. - 美國醫學協會雜誌？ - 當然
Jesus Christ died on that cross. 耶穌基督的確在十字架上死了
You're not telling me what I hoped to hear today. 你沒有告訴我，我今天希望聽到的
What if it is true? 如果是真的呢？
Wouldn't you want to know that? 你不想知道嗎？
The first recorded account tells us 最早的記錄告訴我們
that he was buried in a tomb. 耶穌是確切的被埋在墳墓裡
The empty tomb is based on evidence. 空墳墓是以證據爲依據
Isn't evidence your trade? 你的職業不就是以證據為依據嗎？
Faith is the evidence 信是未見
of things we can't actually see. 之事的確據。
Any careful historian will see 任何細心的歷史學家都會看到
that the core account is consistent 核心細節相同
even if a... a few of the secondary details 即使有一些次要細節
are told from different perspectives. 從不同的角度被告知
500 separate people saw Jesus at the same time. 500個獨立的目擊者同時看到耶穌。
That would be an even bigger miracle 這是一個更大的奇蹟
than the Resurrection itself. 比復活本身，奇蹟還大。
The disciples reported what actually happened. 門徒報道了客觀發生的事情
People with zero motivation to lie. 這些人沒有必要說謊。
Do you really want to know the truth? 你真的想知道真相嗎？
When is enough evidence enough evidence? 但什麼時候足夠的證據，足夠？
I felt something that is maybe more real 我感受到一些東西比任何感受到的都真實
than anything I've ever felt in my life. 是我一生中從未感受到的
This is not a condition anyone could fake. 這不是任何人可以僞造的。
Still takes a leap of faith. 還是需要 勇敢邁出信心的一步。
But why would he do it? 但他爲什麼要這樣做呢？
It's really very simple. 真的很簡單
Love. 愛。
All right, God. 好吧，上帝。
You win. 祢贏了。
- Hey- - Hey- - 嘿 - 嘿 -
Are you okay? 你還好嗎？
Yeah. 是啊。
Yeah, I'm fine. 是的，我沒事
How's he doing? 孩子怎麼樣？
Good. 好。
All right. Come over here. 好吧。來這裡。
I want to talk to you for a second. 我想跟妳聊一會兒。
Are you... are you sure you're okay? 你還？你確定你還好嗎？
So, I have not been, um... 告訴妳，我沒有，嗯...
completely honest with you over the last few months. 我沒有對妳完全誠實，在過去的幾個月裡，
That's a really scary way 蠻讓我擔心的
- to start a conversation. - I... Just-just-just... - 這樣開頭一段對話 - 我 只-只是...
hang with me here, okay? 陪我一會兒，好嗎？
When you became a Christian, 當妳成爲基督徒時，
- I freaked out. I mean... - Mm-hmm. - 我被嚇壞了。 我的意思是... 嗯，
Yeah, I was scared, um... 是的，我很害怕，嗯...
And I felt like that I needed to, um... 我覺得我需要，嗯...
to save you. 去拯救妳。
And so I decided to set out 所以我決定去
to prove this was all a big con. 證明基督教是一個大騙局。
And so that's what I've been doing all this time. 這就是我一直在做的。
Your research? 你的調查？
Yeah. I-I mean, look at this. 是啊。妳看這個。
It's... this is all... 這是...這是所有...
all that stuff. 所有的東西。
That's why I've been so distracted. 也是爲什麼我一直這麼分心。
That's why I went to California. 也是爲什麼我去加州。
I just had to prove this whole thing wrong. 我需要證明基督教是錯的。
But I couldn't. 但我不能。
The evidence for your faith... 妳信仰的證據
it's more overwhelming than I could've ever imagined. 它比我想象的更具壓倒性。
But it wasn't just the evidence, okay? 但也不僅僅是證據而已，好嗎？
It was you. 是妳。
You never stopped loving me. 妳從來沒有停止愛我。
You never gave up on me. 妳從來沒有放棄我
And I think, because of that, 我認爲，因爲這樣，
God didn't, either. 上帝也沒有。
Wh... 什...
What? 什麼？
I mean, I don't... 我的意思是，我不...
I don't think God gave up on you, either, 我不認爲上帝放棄了你，
what are you saying? 你在說什麼？
Uh... I can't even fathom 啊... 我甚至不敢相信
that I'm gonna say these words out loud. 我會大聲說出這些話。
I believe. 我相信。
Oh, hey, hey. 哦，嘿，嘿。
Okay. Let me show you something. 好的。 讓我給你看一些東西。
Show you... 給你看...
"But as many as received Him, “凡接待他的，
to them He gave the right to become children of God." 他就賜他們權柄，作神的兒女。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
"To those who believe in His name." “就是信他名的人，
And what does that mean? 這是什麼意思？
That... means... 這...意味着...
Believe... 相信...
plus receive... 加上接受...
equals become. 等於 “成為”
Okay. Um... 好。 嗯...
So, then, how do I... how do I receive? 那麼那麼我該怎麼接受？
What do I... What's-what's the protocol for, uh... for that? 我該？手續是什，什麼？
There's no wrong way or right way. 沒有對或錯的方式。
Just... you. 只要... 你。
- You talk to God. - Mm-hmm. - 只要你跟上帝說話。 -嗯。
You tell Him your heart. 你告訴祂你的心。
Mm-hmm. 嗯。
A-And we do that right now? 那-我們現在做什麼？
I mean, shouldn't we go to church or...? 我的意思是，我們不應該去教堂嗎？
Mm-mm. Mm-mm. 不。
Right here, right now. 此時此刻。
- This is church. - Okay. - 這是教會。 - 好的。
Come here. 過來。
God, um... 上帝啊
Mm... 嗯...
I have no idea what I'm doing. 我不知道我正在做什麼。
But I cannot ignore the evidence. 但我不能忽視這麼多的證據。
And I don't know everything. 我不知道所有的事。
Uh, I never will know everything. 啊，我永遠不會知道所有的事。
Um, but I... 嗯， 但我...
I know enough. 我知道了足夠。
And I believe it. 而且我相信。
And I'm sorry for what I've... 我很抱歉，我...
what I've put my wife through, 讓我太太經歷過去這些，
um, for what I put my family through, uh... 嗯， 讓我家人經歷的， 啊...
But I believe You're real, 但我相信祢是真實的，
and I don't know what comes next. 我不知道接下來會發生什麼。
I don't know... 我不知道...
I don't know what it means. 我不知道這意味著什麼。
I just know that I want... I want that. 我只是知道，我想要...我想要...
I want... I want whatever's next. 我想...我想要將要發生的事。
Um... 嗯...
So let's do that. 所以，讓我們這樣做。
Amen. 阿門。
Thank you. 謝謝。
I guess I'm crazy, too. 我想我也很瘋狂。
（三個月後）
Pitching him today. 今天跟主管提。
Don't blow it. 別弄砸了。
Watch this. 看吧。
I got a pitch for you. 我向你提個好主意。
Well, that didn't last long. 那東西沒有持續很久。
Piece of junk. 一塊垃圾。
You hear about Hicks? 你聽說 希克斯 了嗎？
Released from the hospital. 從醫院出院了。
No longer a resident of Crook County Jail. 不再是 “罪犯”縣 監獄的居民。
I did. That's great news. 我聽說了。是個好消息
Mm. 嗯。
Come on, this is a joke, right? 你是在開玩笑，對吧？
No. No, it's not. 不，不是。
I-I-I-I want to do 我-我-想做
a first-person feature story, okay? 一個以第一人稱，親身經歷的故事
An odyssey. 一個歷險記。
Uh, one man's journey from skepticism to faith. 啊，一個人從無神論到信仰 的旅途。
Forget it, Lee. 不行，Lee。
I mean... 我的意思是...
good for you, I guess, but... 這對你很好， 我想是， 但...
we can't publish something like this. 我們不能發表這樣的東西。
We'd lose all credibility. So would you. 報社將會失去所有的信譽。你也會。
I really wish that you would reconsider. 我真的希望你重新考慮。
Stick to what you know, Lee. Go on, now. 把握你所知道的， Lee。 現在去吧
Get out of here. 離開這裡。
Not until you've at least heard me out. 直到你至少聽我講講。
- Hi, Daddy. - Hey, you. How are you? - 嗨，爸爸。 - 嘿，妳。 妳好嗎？
Good. 好。
- Hi. - Hi. - 你好 - 妳好
So? 怎麼樣？
Dubois said no. 杜博主管說不。
- He did? - Yeah. - 他說？ - 是啊
- Oh, no. Sorry, hon. - I did it! I did it! - 好可惜。對不起，親愛的。 - 我做到了！ 我做到了！
What did you did? 妳做到了什麼？
I can finally reach the faucet. 我終於可以搆到水龍頭了。
- Oh, my Lord. - I'm tall enough now. - 哦，我的上帝。 - 我現在足夠高了。
Look at you! You're a big girl now. 看看妳！ 妳現在是一個大女孩了。
Oh, no, you need to stop that. That means you're growing up. 哦，不，妳需要停止。這意味着妳正在成長。
You're not our little girl anymore. 妳不再是我們的小女孩了。
It's not that big of a deal, Daddy. 爸爸。這不是那麼大的事。
I think it's a big deal. 我認爲這是一件大事。
Hey, how 'bout a book? 嘿，寫一本書怎麼樣？
A What? 什麼？
Instead of an article, how 'bout a book? 不是一篇文章，而是一本書怎麼樣？
What do you think about that? 妳覺得怎麼樣？
- Yeah! Definitely! - Yeah? - 是啊！ 絕對。 - 是啊？
“重審耶穌”
Lee 史特博
“重審耶穌” Lee 史特博
Lee 史特博的 “重審耶穌” 成爲國際暢銷書， 系列中的一本，現在有超過1400萬份在全球發行
Lee於1987年離開新聞界 成爲 柳溪教會 的一名牧師， 就是萊斯利 在他還是一個無神論者時 帶去的地方
自從出版了 “重審耶穌”， Lee又出版了超過20本書， 並且到世界各地分享他的信仰見證
看到她父親的改變，在Lee信主後六個月，小 艾莉森 也成爲基督徒。 今天她是好幾本小說的作者，引領人們歸向上帝。
凱爾 長大後得到神學博士學位，現在是神學院教授 寫了許多基督教書籍
他給他兒子取名隨他父
Lee 和 Leslie 現居德州的 休斯敦市 在 休斯頓浸會 大學 教授 基督教思想 並在 伍德蘭市教會 教牧
♪ 'Cause, Lord, I believe ♪ ♪ 因為，主，我相信 ♪
♪ Help me believe ♪ ♪ 幫助我相信 ♪
♪ Lord, I can see ♪ ♪ 主啊，我能看見 ♪
♪ But I still can't see clearly ♪ ♪ 但是我還是看不清楚 ♪
♪ Lord, I believe ♪ ♪ 主啊，我相信 ♪
♪ Would you help me believe ♪ ♪ 幫助我相信 ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪ 因為我好想要 ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad... ♪ ♪ 因為我好想要 ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪ 因為我好想要 ♪
♪ Like a beggar in my soul ♪ ♪ 像我靈魂的乞丐 ♪
♪ Like a beggar in the world ♪ ♪ 像世界的乞丐 ♪
♪ Just to find you, Lord ♪ ♪ 只要找到祢，主 ♪
♪ 'Cause, Lord, I believe ♪ ♪ 因為，主，我相信 ♪
♪ Help me believe ♪ ♪ 幫助我相信 ♪
♪ Lord, I can see ♪ ♪ 主啊，我能看見 ♪
♪ But I still can't see clearly ♪ ♪ 但是我還是看不清楚 ♪
♪ Lord, I believe ♪ ♪ 主啊，我相信 ♪
♪ Would you help me believe ♪ ♪ 幫助我相信 ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪ 因為我好想要 ♪
♪ Yeah, ah ♪ ♪ 是啊 ，♪
♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ 哦，哦 ♪
♪ Yeah, ah ♪ ♪ 是啊 ，♪
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ 哦，哦，哦，哦 ♪
♪ Yeah, ah ♪ ♪ 是啊 ，♪
♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪ 哦，哦 ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪ 因為我好想要 ♪
♪ Like a beggar in my soul ♪ ♪ 像我靈魂的乞丐 ♪
♪ Like a beggar in the world ♪ ♪ 像世界的乞丐 ♪
♪ Just to find you, Lord ♪ ♪ 只要找到祢，主 ♪
根據一帆版本，字幕再次詳細校譯於 2020.03.16