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道奇战马 The Dodge Charger
不发一言 the official car of making a statement
其意自彰 without saying anything at all
亚 特 兰 大
第一季 第七集
蒙太奇脱口秀
晚上好 欢迎收看蒙太奇脱口秀 Good evening, and welcome to "Montague."
我是你们的主持人 富兰克林·蒙太奇 I'm your host, Franklin Montague.
我们今天要讨论的话题是 And today we're gonna take a look
关于日益增长的性别观念接受度 at the growing outlook of accepted sexuality
和它在黑人青年群体及文化中的影响 and its effects on black youth and culture.
我们请到的嘉宾是 With us today, we have
美国跨性别课题研究中心主管 the Head of the Center of Trans-American Issues,
黛布拉·霍尔特博士 Dr. Debra Holt,
以及录音室歌手 款爷 and recording artist Paper Boi.
二位晚上好 Good evening to you both.
-晚上好 蒙太奇 -咋着 - Good evening, Montague. - 'Sup?
那我们开始聊聊 Uh, let's start at the beginning.
款爷 上周二你参与了一场推特上的骂战 Paper Boi, last Tuesday you engaged in a Twitter rant
在其中发表了一些煽动性言论 that had some pretty inflammatory statements.
特别有一条言论引起了网友们强烈的反应 But the one statement that seems to have made the biggest impact
我来念一下“你们这些黑鬼 Was this one and I quote,"Y'all the..."
骂我傻缺 N-words who said I was weird for not wanting to
凯特琳·詹娜是金·卡戴珊的前继父 美国田径奥运冠军 2015年接受变性手术成为跨性别者
就因为我说我不想睡凯特琳·詹娜” F-word Caitlyn Jenner."
你介意解释一下这句话吗 Would you want to, uh, explain that statement?
介意 No.
那你可以为我们解释一下吗 Well, could you explain that statement?
我就那意思 I...meant what I said.
你不觉得这句话是在表达你对跨性别者的恐惧吗 You don't think your tweets are transphobic?
我觉得不能因为你们说叫我去 I just don't have to have sex
我就去跟凯特琳·詹娜上床啊 with Caitlyn Jenner 'cause y'all say so.
所以你觉得凯特琳·詹娜并不重要对吗 Mm. So you don't think Caitlyn Jenner's important?
我知道你们在说啥 好伐 Look, I get what y'all saying, right?
但她对我确实不是特别重要啊 But she's not super important to me,
就 对我的生活来说 like, not my life.
那你不喜欢跨性别人群有多久了 So how long have you disliked transpeople?
兄弟 我其实才发现他们的存在 Man, look, I just found out they exist,
-实话 真的 -并不是吧 - to be honest. - No, no--
"是我让凯特琳·詹娜改变性别的" "I make her switch sides, Caitlyn Jenner in reverse"
这不是你的一句歌词吗 Is that not a-a lyric of yours?
我那就是在饶舌啊哥 Man, I was just rapping, man.
我还说过更过分的话 Look, I've said worse things.
你听过我那首叫《光照派性爱》的歌吗 You ever heard my song,"Illuminati Sex"?
并没有 Haven't heard it yet.
那不就完了 Well, there we go then.
黛布拉 你在《变迁：新一代的性别观》 Debra, you've written about this current phenomenon in your book,
一书中提到了现在这种风气 Transition: Gender in a New Generation.
你对此怎么看 What do you think about all this?
我认为这种言论是排外文化 I look at these statements as natural consequences of a culture
和对力量的追求的一种自然结果 of exclusion and power.
当下有大量的性别 You know, there's--there's a large swath of gender
和性别角色 and sexuality roles
被暴露在公众面前 that are just being exposed to a large portion of the public.
对于特定的群体来说 Uh, it's harder for certain sections
接受这种转变是更困难的 to deal with this transition
主要是因为存在利益上的冲突 uh, because of conflict of interest,
以及自我身份认知产生的问题 and, frankly, identity issues.
在刚才这个问题里 饶舌圈里 In this case, the rap community.
我其实认为这件事 Now, I truly believe it's, uh,
在黑人圈里 这件事同彰显男性的阳刚之气 has more to do with issues of masculinity
更相关 in the black community than actual
这是与恐同或者恐跨性别者的心理来比 homophobia or--or transphobia.
-可以麻烦解释一下吗 -对 请您 - Please explain. - Yes, please, please.
指点一下我 Tell me--tell me about myself.
来开始吧 Go on.
好吧 这位先生 款 款爷先生 Well, Mis--Mister, uh, Pa-- Mr. Paper Boi--
先生 对是我 Mister, yeah.
你认为自己是什么身份 What would you consider yourself?
一个饶舌歌手 A rapper?
一个直的饶舌歌手 A straight rapper?
当然是了 Hell yeah.
我对你的歌词做了些研究 Well, I did some research on your lyrics,
那些话其实非常鼓励泛性别性交 and they're actually very pro sexual-spectrum.
鼓励啥 Pro-what?
”如果我上了你 你就是我好兄弟 "If I F- with you, you my N-word,
一辈子的好兄弟“ you my N-word for life."
那并不是我本意啊 Yo, you know, that ain't what I meant.
我理解 Yeah, oh, I understand, but, you know,
但是这其中有一种模糊的 there's a layer of fluidity...
没没 这里面啥都没有 No, no, no. There's no extra layer.
是你自己都没有意识到的 That you yourself don't even realize.
我其实大部分时间都不知道我在说什么 I don't think about what I'm rapping half the time.
我只是想挣钞票 Look, I'm just trying to get paid,
你懂吗 妈的 you feel me? Look, (bleep),
你以为我为啥来参加这个节目 why you think I'm on this show?
可是你不会因为上这个节目而挣钱啊 You're not getting paid for this.
啥 厄恩这是咋回事 Hey--Hey, Earn--man?
黑人们并没有理解 接受了跨性别文化 Black men aren't ready to accept the implications
意味着什么 of a trans-accepting culture.
我觉得我可以说它很奇怪吧 No--look, I'm allowed to say that it's weird.
它吗 "It"?
不是 我没有故意把 他 说成 它 No, look, I'm not calling him a "it."
-我只是在说 -他 - Naw, I'm just saying that-- - "Him"?
能让我说话吗 妈的 Look--look, can I say something? Damn!
-就这样吧 -这要分情况 - All right. - Well, it depends.
-我是想说 -我们来休息一下 - I was trying to say-- - We got to take a break.
广告回来后 我们来了解一个小伙子 When we're back, we're gonna take a look
为追求平等而挣扎着的奋斗之路 into a young boy's struggle for equality.
$0.99/瓶
一块四毛九 $1.49?
这罐上不写的九毛九吗 But the price on the can, though.
这罐上是写的九毛九啊 The price is on the can, though.
道奇战马 The Dodge Charger.
不发一言 其意自彰 Make a statement without saying anything at all.
在之前的节目我们讨论了 Earlier in our show, we talked about
性别上的转变 transitions in sexuality.
下面我们来关注一下跨种族的转变 Uh, but what about race?
外派记者内森·威尔德为您报道 Our correspondent, Nathan Wielder, has the story.
跨越种族 蒙太奇脱口秀特别报道
哈里森从外表看 Harrison looks from the outside
同其他青少年别无二致 to be your average teenager.
他去上学 喜欢玩电子游戏 He goes to school, plays video games,
他会在自己的房间里听歌 even listens to music in his room.
只有一点他不一样 But there's one difference.
我是一个35岁的白人 I'm a 35-year-old white man.
他出生的时候名叫安特万·思莫斯 Harrison, born Antwoine Smalls,
认为自己是一名跨种族者 has trans-racial identity,
他觉得自己的名字叫做哈里森 布斯 identifying as Harrison Booth,
是一名来自科罗拉多州的35岁白人 a 35-year-old white man from Colorado.
那你是什么时候知道自己其实是一个 And when did you know that you were a
35岁的白人的呢 35-year-old white man?
我一直觉得自己与众不同 Well, I've always felt different.
我和别人一样去购物 去电影院 I go to the store, the movies,
然后我就想啊 and just be thinking to myself, like,
为什么我得不到我应得的尊重呢 "Why am I not getting the respect I deserve?"
后来 我就突然想通了 And then, it just hit me.
我其实是个35岁的 I'm white...
白人 and 35.
我有的时候很怀念科罗拉多 I just miss Colorado sometimes, you know.
在这边 我假装这些建筑都还在老的 Here, I pretend the buildings are the old
圣胡安山脉之下 但是其实我的工作在这 San Juan Mountain ranges but, you know, the job's here.
你在哪里工作 And where do you work?
我是可口可乐公司的一名系统工程师 I'm a Systems Engineer for Coca-Cola.
噢 好的 Oh. Okay.
他根本不工作的 That boy don't work.
他上了学 然后就没有然后了 He go to school, and that's it.
有一天 他突然说 One day, he said,
叫我哈里森 "Call me Harrison."
我问 那是谁 I said, "Who's that?"
他回答道 是我 He said, "Me."
你相信他是个白人吗 Do you believe that he is a white man?
他就不是啊 I mean, he isn't.
妈的 我也想某天早上醒来然后说 (bleep), I'd love to wake up one day and say,
大家好 我是蕾哈娜 "Hey, everybody, I'm Rihanna."
但是我不是啊 But I ain't.
我一直挺艰难的 It's been pretty hard.
我的家人始终不能理解 My family just doesn't get it.
我想让他们和我一起出去 You know, I try to get them to go out with me,
比如出去遛弯 或者去农贸市场 go on walks, go to the farmers market,
可以一起和别人聊天 但是都没成功 chat with people, but...yeah.
那你认为他们为什么不理解呢 So why don't you think that they get it?
我觉得他们不理解是因为 I don't think they get it because
他们没有认识到种族本来就是空想出来的 they don't realize that race is just a made-up thing.
他们在成长过程中就有了标签 我呢 They grew up having labels, and me,
我反正就不是像他们那样的 I'm just--I'm just not like that.
我明白了 I see.
那你如何去实现这种自我认知呢 So how do you embrace your identity?
我会穿特定的衣服 I dress a certain way.
美国知名户外运动服饰品牌
巴塔哥尼亚 Patagonia.
同时会配上一条厚实的棕色皮带 I wear a thick, brown leather belt.
我会幻想自己手术后的生活 I like to envision myself after the surgery.
请问你这有什么种类的精酿啤酒 "Hey, excuse me, what IPA do you have on tap?"
你看昨晚的权力的游戏了没 "Hey, did you see Game of Thrones last night?"
所以关于你的手术 So your--your surgery,
是会在今年晚些时候做吗 that's later this year?
是的 我现在开始在 Right. I started working
石峰商场工作了 希望可以在 at Stonecrest Mall, so hopefully
那之前攒够钱去进行下一步 by then I have enough money to take the next step.
你是同时在可口可乐公司和商场工作吗 So you work at Coca-Cola and the mall?
是的 我两边都在 Right. Correct, I work at both.
哈里森正在计划着在萨缪尔·维加拉医生 Harrison has been planning
的帮助下进行彻底的种族转换 a full racial transition with a Dr. Samuel Vergara
医生保证了哈里森可以通过 who guarantees Harrison can visually transition
一个试验性的过程实现外部的改变 through an experimental procedure
让哈里森不仅可以成为一个白人 that will allow Harrison not only to be a white man
还可以成为他想成为的任意种人 but whatever race he chooses.
整个过程是百分百没问题的 The procedure's absolutely 100% possible.
但是他可能会看上去有点奇怪 He's gonna look weird though.
然而在哈里森可以完全变成 But before Harrison can fully realize
他想变成的身份之前 他依旧需要过 his physical identity, he still has the day-to-day
充斥着歧视和嘲弄的日常生活 that's filled with discrimination and ridicule.
这感觉很不好的 It--it's pretty awful, you know.
你在马路上走着 You--you walk in the streets,
黑人看到你 他们会对你点头表示 and black people, they see you, they nod to you like,
见到自己人的感觉挺好 "Hey, good to see us."
我现在就已经放弃了解释 And it's to the point where I've just given up.
我不再去试图纠正说服他们 I've stopped trying to convince them
-我跟你们不一样 -明白你意思了 - that I'm not "us." - Gotcha.
打扰一下 这肯定是那个人 Hey, excuse me, this is definitely the guy.
他根本不住在这一片 He doesn't even live in the area.
我从没见过他 I've never seen him before.
我报的警
我觉得我是在像蜗牛一样很慢地前行 I think we're taking slow strides,
但是我相信情况会越来越好的 but you have to believe things are getting better,
否则我内心估计就要崩了 otherwise, you'll just die inside.
你有什么想对 Is there anything you'd like to say to
其他可能有相似经验的 other black kids out there
黑人孩子说的吗 who may be going through the same thing?
做你自己 Just be you.
不惜一切代价 At all costs.
但是同时 But also,
别瞎胡穿衣服了 stop dressing so crazy.
当然了 Absolutely.
我是著名影星戴威昂·强森 I'm Devyonne Johnson, famous movie star.
当导演叫停 我可以休息五分钟的时候 When the director calls cut and I get a quick five,
你懂的 我想要来一个斯威舍甜卷 you know I'm reaching for the smooth taste
来带给我顺滑的口感 of Swisher Sweets.
斯威舍甜卷是唯一使用 Swisher Sweets are the only cigarillos made with
家有农场的高质量烟草做成的小雪茄 the highest quality tobacco from family-owned farms.
它的高标准和生产步骤 It's their high standards and experience
使它成为你无时无刻都可享用的品质烟草 that make for a quality smoke you can enjoy every time.
我只抽斯威舍甜卷 I only smoke Swisher Sweets.
就爱这口顺滑 It's the smooth taste.
斯威舍甜卷简直太棒啦 These Swisher Sweets is good as hell.
看看这根是不是完全清理干净了 Here, make sure this one's empty.
斯威舍甜卷 Swisher Sweets.
它们有种魔力 There's just something about 'em.
来试试我们新推出的无烟丝斯威舍甜卷 And try our new pre-dumps Swisher Sweets as well.
回到现场 今天我们聊到的是 And we're back. And today we're talking about
变化与变迁 连同我们的嘉宾 transitions with my guests,
亚特兰大说唱歌手款爷和黛布拉·霍尔特博士 Atlanta rapper Paper Boi and Dr. Debra Holt.
款爷 你害怕在这个话题上表露你心声吗 Ah, Paper Boi, are you afraid to speak your mind on this subject?
其实我怕呀 Actually, yup, I am.
万一有人想让我再也没法挣到钞票了 You can't say real (bleep) anymore without somebody
可不能随便瞎说了 trying to make sure you never make money forever.
所以你觉得你是受到了迫害吗 So you think you're being persecuted?
我是这么觉得的 Yes, I am.
现在在歌里都不能唱“婊子”了 Man, you can't even say "ho" in a song no more.
我确信这是个玩笑 A travesty, I'm sure.
你凭啥那么说 Yo, why you talk like that?
说那就是个玩 啥意思你 Like, "a travesty, I'm sur--" like, what?
你是在担心抱怨你做的坏事会有报应的 You're--you're whining about chickens coming home to roost.
没没没有 No-no-no-no-no.
说唱就是在表现天道好轮回 Rap is chickens coming home to roost.
我的生活就是被你们做的逼事儿搞乱了 Look, my life is messed up from (bleep) y'all did, okay?
黑人新闻里都有 你们应该去看看 That's black news. You can look that up.
关于你的新闻都有很严重的问题 Well, your news is problematic.
贱人 那不是我的错 Bitch, that ain't my fault!
在我的节目上 你不能说“贱人” I won't have you on my show calling anyone "bitches."
你怎么能怪我的新闻不好 How you gonna blame me for news being bad, huh?
好了好了冷静下来 All right, simmer down, simmer down.
你不乱飚垃圾话 You can't even have an intelligent dialogue
都不能进行正常对话了 without spewing profanities
这太可笑了 It's--it's ludicrous.
款爷 你怨恨跨性别人群 Paper Boi, isn't a lack of a father
是因为你没有父亲吗 the reason you hate transpeople?
啥 你说我啥 没有父亲 What? Lack of a father?
你知道你在说啥吗 贱人 给我闭嘴 Man, you hear yourself? (bleep), shut up.
好吧是这样的大兄弟 Man, here's the thing.
这对我来说很难啊 Man, I-- it's hard for me to care
你懂吗 根本没人关心我 about this when nobody cares about me
就因为我是个黑人 as a black human man, you feel me?
你看 凯特琳·詹娜就是从一开始 Like, Caitlyn Jenner is just doing
就在做一个富裕白人应该做的事儿 what rich white men been doing since the dawn of time,
他就是想做啥就做啥 which is whatever the hell he want.
他怎么就这么特殊呢 我又凭啥要管别人 So why should I care? What make him so special?
但是 你作为生活在这个国家的一名黑人 But--but as a black man in this country,
你难道不该关心一下他人的民主自由吗 shouldn't you care about the civil liberties of others,
既然他们和你 since they're so closely related to--to
对平等的艰难追寻有很密切的关系 your struggle for equality?
你在说啥呢 我当然关心了 What you talking 'bout? I do care.
我对同性恋和跨性别人群没有任何意见 Look, I don't have a problem with gay people, transpeople,
那是我可以做到的耐心 但对我这样的人 because that's tolerance, but where's tolerance
人们的忍耐度在哪儿呢 你懂我意思不 for people like me? You know what I'm saying?
听我说 Like... Look.
我有权利说我觉得这东西很怪异 I should be able to say something is weird
同时人们不会因为我说这个就踩我 对吧 without people hating on me. All right?
我从来没有说过关于 Look, I never--I never said anything
剥夺任何人的应有权利的话 about taking away nobody's rights.
从来没有过 A'ight? Never.
我明白你说的 I--I understand what you're saying,
但是有些人就是觉得你说话很有攻击性 but--but some people found your remarks offensive.
还自由言论呢 呵呵 Yeah, well, freedom of speech, (bleep).
你说的对啊 No, you're right.
我赞成你说的 I agree.
但你的音乐对黑人小孩有害的啊 But your music is detrimental to black teens.
饶舌音乐不都这样吗 Yeah, but so is all rap music, right?
-还有摇滚也是啊 -没错 - I mean, and rock music... - Rock.
在摇滚被饶舌取代之前 Before it was taken over by rap.
你说的很对 Yeah, I agree.
可是你厌恶女人啊 You hate... women!
你特么说啥 (bleep), what?
心中有疑问了吗 Questions.
此人第一集出现过 曾在公交车上和厄恩交谈
关于这个宇宙 The universe.
还是要做父子检测了 Paternity tests?
向你致敬 Salutations.
你好 我是艾哈迈德·怀特 Hi. My name is Ahmad White.
你也许在梦里见过我 You may know me from your dreams.
如果你有疑问 Call this number below
就打下面这个电话吧 and get the answers you deserve.
我打电话给阿哈迈德·怀特的时候 When I called Ahmad White,
我已经三个月还不上车贷了 I was three months behind on my car note.
我的继子还在蹲监狱 My stepson, he was in jail.
我的生活是一团乱麻 My life was in shambles!
看看现在 我拥有了一辆卡车 But now, I got a truck,
我还有了个女朋友 I got a girlfriend,
我得到了我想要的答案 I got the answers I deserve.
感谢你 艾哈迈德 怀特 Thank you, Ahmad White.
大多数人没有意识到 Most people don't realize
他们的力量源泉其实来自另一个宇宙 their chakra's in another universe.
别傻了 Don't be dumb.
赶紧打电话 Call now.
艾哈迈德和我发现我是月亮星座 Me and Ahmad found out I was a moon sign,
还有在我的饮食里吃盐太少了 and I wasn't getting enough crystal in my diet.
现在呢 我住在一个美丽的房子里 Now, I live in a beautiful home.
艾哈迈德给予了我所追求的答案 Ahmad gave me the answers I was looking for.
来我们的自由庇护所吧 Come to our Liberty Center
我们提供免费的果汁和巧克力三明治 and get a free juice and Nutella sandwich.
打电话给艾哈迈德之前 我的生活没有方向 When I called Ahmad, my life was going nowhere fast.
然后我享用了巧克力三明治和果汁 After a Nutella sandwich and juice,
你猜怎么着 生活变得好多了 my life's a lot better.
我帮助你打开第三只眼看到自己的潜能 Open your third eye.
他管用的 He works.
他就是很准 He just works.
他很神 他真的神 He works. He really works.
他牛逼 他真的真的牛逼 He works. He really, really works.
知识是通往伟大的途径 Knowledge is the path to greatness.
如果你想像小海豚一样聪明 If you'd like to be smart as a baby dolphin,
现在就拿起电话吧 call now.
车不错啊 That's a nice car.
你认识他吗 You know him?
那是维克多·华莱士 That's Victor Wallace.
他妻子和他兄弟在一起了 His wife left him for his brother.
打了很久的官司 Long court battle.
你懂得 抢孩子还有房子 Kids, house--
真的是一团糟 It got messy.
他在法庭上一言未发 He ain't say one word the whole trial.
临了就站起来说了一句话 But then at the end, he just stood up and said,
我就要我的道奇战马车 "Leave me my Dodge Charger."
他开着车在这片儿转悠 He been driving around this neighborhood
得有一周了 in circles for a week.
就知道坐车里跟人挥手 Just waving.
反正有车就不错了 Nice car though.
道奇战马 离婚了不要别的也要它 The Dodge Charger. Keep it in the divorce.
可可国王的麦片 King Coco's Crunch-O's.
传言不虚 The legend is true!
麦片是我的了 Gimme that crunch!
想得美 Nice try.
只有小孩子可以拥有 But only kids can have...
椰子麦片 Coconut Crunch-O's.
每一口都能吃到巧克力味的椰子麦片 That chocolatey coconut crunch in every bite.
啊我仿佛能尝到那个味道 Oh, I can almost taste it!
我必须要拥有那个麦片 Oh, I got to have them Crunch-O's!
别反抗了 Stop resisting.
-先生 别挣扎了 -妈的 - Stop resisting, sir. - Damn!
-请停止反抗 -他妈的 - Stop...resisting. - Shit, man!
原地趴着 Stay down.
出什么事了 What happened?
他要蹲号子了 He's going to jail.
就这样 That's what happened.
这简直是扯淡 This is some bullshit!
你还好吗 You all right?
他没事 He's fine.
他就是不想去蹲号子 He just doesn't wanna go to jail.
你坐我背上了哥们 You sitting on my back, man!
先生 安静 Sir, be quiet.
嘿 你坐到他背了 Yo! You sitting on his back!
他刚才是想偷你们的麦片对吧 He was trying to steal your cereal, right?
可是那只是麦片呀 I mean, it's just cereal.
我的可以给他 He can have it!
听我说 我只是饿了 Man, I'm just hungry, man!
狼是不让进商店的 They don't let wolves in stores, man!
小朋友们 请退后 Step back, guys.
我要押解他了 I'm going to lift the offender up.
先生 请站起来 We are now going to our feet, sir.
走吧 Let's go, sir, let's go.
我大可以吃了这些小孩的 Nigga, I could be eating these kids!
但是我只要麦片 But I'm out here eating cereal!
没关系啊 Hey, it's cool!
我们给他我们的麦片就好了 We'll just give him the cereal.
不行 只有孩子可以享用椰子麦片 No, only kids can have Coconut Crunch-O's.
你们知道的 You know that.
这法律太扯了 That's a wack law.
这哥们知道他能吃麦片 This fool know he eat Coconut Crunch-O's,
再说了 你也不是小孩 and you ain't no kid!
让我做我的本职工作 Let me do my job.
我说了 请退后 I said back up...sir!
椰子麦片 平衡早餐的不二之选 Coconut Crunch-O's is a part of this balanced breakfast.
我们刚才播放了那段讲述一个年轻人 Earlier we showed a clip about a young man
和他的跨性别身份认知问题的视频 dealing with trans-racial identity.
我们现在有请他通过脸书视频和现场连线 Well, we've got him joining us via Facebook video chat.
我们欢迎安特万·思莫斯的到来 Please welcome Antwoine Smalls to the show.
你好 蒙太奇 感谢邀请我来 Hello, Montague, thank you for having me on your show.
安特万 So now, Antwoine...
-应该是哈里森 -不好意思 哈里森 - It's Harrison. - I'm sorry. Harrison.
我们上次见面后 你的生活怎么样了 How's your life been since we last saw you?
挺好的 It's pretty good.
我刚从南卡罗莱纳州的查尔斯顿回来 I just came back from Charleston, South Carolina.
那儿很美的 Beautiful.
我去了一些那种艺术展览 I was checking out some cheap art spaces
给我还有我一个朋友去看看的 for me and a friend that I made, uh--
不好意思 我不行了 What--wait--I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
这太蠢了吧 Yo. This is dumb.
-这真的太蠢了 -什么情况 - Like, that--this is dumb. - What--
兄弟 你是变身了吗 Like, dude, wait, wait. Did you power up?
你看上去就像超级赛亚人 'Cause you look like Super Saiyan right now.
就好像龙珠里的孙悟空 Like, is that, like, is that the Goku, like Dragon Ball collection,
我滴个神啊 你看起来好像 my (bleep), like? You look like
-冒牌的艾伦 德詹尼丝 -那个 a fake Ellen DeGeneres. -This is just...
美国著名节目主持人 拉拉
-你就是佛伦 德詹尼丝 -好吧 - Like a Felon DeGeneres. - Okay.
不不 你更像德雷科 马尔福 Look, no-no-no, you look like Drake Malfoy, dude, like.
《哈利·波特》中出现的角色 黄头发
神他么刘海 没人告诉过你 Bangs, my (bleep)? Like, nobody told you
千万不要整刘海吗 not to do bangs--Like--
-忍耐力真不错 -款先生 - Nice tolerance. - Mr. Boi.
怎么了 难道你们都不觉得吗 好吧 What is up--Wait, wait--None of y'all? Okay.
够了 谢谢你 Okay, okay, thank you.
-你失礼了 -不好意思 你继续 - That is very inappropriate. - Sorry, man, go ahead.
-嘘 -没关系的 - Shh. - It's--it's okay.
很遗憾的是 黑人群体并不能接受 Sadly, the black community, they just aren't accepting
异端或者是种族多样性 of racial diversity or anyone different, for that matter.
好的吧 哈里森 Mm. Now, Harrison...
你会觉得饶舌这帮人 Would you say that, uh, the--the rap game
或者说是嘻哈群体会特别的对你 or the hip-hop community is especially intolerant
这种生活方式不能容忍吗 of the lifestyle you chose?
我觉得其实不能完全责怪饶舌或嘻哈文化 We really can't blame rap or the hip-hop culture.
他们其实也是在尽力表达自己的想法 He's just expressing himself to the best of his ability.
我尊重他们的这个权利 And I will defend his right to do that.
他们其实讲的是来自街头的观点或是故事 He's telling a story, or, like, views from the streets.
就好像犹太人的新闻报道一样 You know, like a ghetto news.
-有道理 -但是哈里森 - Okay. - But--but Harrison,
你不会觉得饶舌群体 don't you think that the rap community
以及他们对待跨性别和同性恋人群的态度 and its treatment of transpeople and homosexuals
其实反映了黑人社区中的一个大问题吗 is indicative of a larger problem in the black community,
就是这个导致了你的生活方式不能被接受 one that makes your lifestyle unacceptable?
我完全不觉得啊 No, no way. Not at all.
就 一个男的想把自己变成一个女的 I mean, a man wanting to turn himself into a woman--
这事儿本来就忤逆自然的啊 我也不觉得 that's just unnatural, and I don't think
我们应该让我们的孩子们觉得这样没问题 we should have our kids thinking that that's okay.
所以我会支持他们想要传达的信息 So I will support that message.
等 等一下 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
你刚说的什么意思 What are you saying?
我不支持同性婚姻的 I'm not into gay marriage.
那也太恶心了 That--that is gross.
我为什么要容忍那么恶心的事呢 Why would I ever tolerate something like that?
我认为婚姻应该是 Marriage is meant for
男人和女人的结合 而不是 a man and a woman, not that--
那也太倒胃口了吧 我不支持 that's an abomination. We're--We--No.
你怎么能这么说 How can you say that
这不就和你刚才提到的歧视是一回事吗 with the discrimination you were just talking about?
-你怎么能 -真理 - I mean, how-- - It's the truth.
-你是疯了吗 -这真特么太疯狂了 - What are you, crazy? - This (bleep) crazy!
我们今晚就到这里 That is all the time we have tonight.
-感谢我们嘉宾的到来 -绝了我的神 - I'd like to thank my guests... - Oh, my God.
霍尔特博士 款爷 Dr. Holt, Paper Boi.
请支持她的新书《变迁》 Please check for her book, Transition,
还有款爷的新专辑 as well as Paper Boi's mixtape Postal.
-来买来买 -可以在 -Yup! -Available...
专辑能卖的地方买到 wherever mixtapes are available.
祝大家晚安 Good night.
你真的就像一个快倒的棕榈树 Like, you look like a dying palm tree.
就好像隐形的第五个披头士成员 Right? Like you look like the lost fifth Beatle,
他们从来不提起的那个 我擦 my (bleep), that they just don't talk about.
就好像你变身了 That, like, power up, like--
你看那刘海 绝了 they gave him (bleep) bangs, like--(laughing).
我特么管不了了 I don't care for it.