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埃德加 Edgar!
他是怎么死的 What did he die of?
和我们教会未来的命运一样 The same thing our Church is going to die of.
老死的 Old age.
九个月后
天主教徒的信仰 Et apostolicae fidei cultoribus.
你怎么就对那个雕塑情有独钟 What is it about that statuette that you find so sensual?
我并不想对自己进行精神分析 I'd prefer not to delve into my psyche.
圣父 捐赠品减少了 Holy Father, donations have declined.
教会税收入减少了 Revenues from religious taxes,
对教会成员征收的一种税
我们的主教和教区可都靠着这个生存 which our bishops and dioceses depend on for their survival,
梵蒂冈的旅游业也消退了 have declined, tourist visits to the Vatican have declined,
这大大地减少了梵蒂冈城的资金流入 greatly reducing the influx of funds to Vatican City.
梵蒂冈银行也无能为力了 There is not much that the Vatican Bank can do.
自由财政政策的日子结束了 Our days of free willing finances are over.
银行管理制度的变动意味着我们现在已然束手无策 Changes in banking regulations mean that our hands are now tied.
如果继续下去 If we continue on this course,
我们就要迫于经济压力去变卖艺术遗产了 we'll be forced to start selling off our artistic patrimony
生存下去很简单 simply to survive.
信徒们会回来的 The faithful will return.
自然周期问题而已 It's a natural cycle.
目前来看信徒们没有要回来的打算 For now, the faithful are not returning.
而且天主教基要派一些小而危险的飞地开始涌现了 And small but dangerous enclaves of Catholic fundamentalism
飞地：国境内的隶属它国的一块领土
基要派：基督教内带有原教旨主义倾向的一个运动 是对现代主义和自由主义神学的反动 主张以字面理解圣经
像伊斯兰教一样 are starting to spring up, just like in Islam.
伊斯兰教的追随者要比天主教会的多 Islam has more followers than the Catholic Church.
你不觉得做这些高危又不得人心的决定 Don't you find it a burden to take on the responsibility
要承担的重责是个负担吗 of such risky and unpopular decisions?
不 No.
圣座 你到底是谁 Your Holiness, who are you, really?
因此 经万能上帝 Therefore, by the authority of the almighty God
经圣伯多禄和圣保禄 经我们自己的许可 of Saint Peter and Paul and by our Own,
我们这位值得尊敬的兄弟 this venerable brother of ours,
我们庄严地宣布 we create and solemnly proclaim
神圣圣罗马教会 of the Holy Roman Church,
伯纳多·阿伦索·古铁雷斯主教 Cardinal Bernardo Alonso Gutierrez.
从圣伯多禄手中得到戒指 Receive the ring from the hands of Peter.
并知道对使徒王子之爱 And know that through the love of the Prince of the Apostles
将加深你对教会之爱 your love for the Church is strengthened.
用力 再用力 Push. Push more.
用力 加把劲 好吗 Push! Pushing, ok.
没事的 埃思特 Ok, Esther.
你可以的 埃思特 Ok, Esther.
再用力一点 Push more.
用力 很好 很好 Push. Very good, Very good.
好的 埃思特 好的 继续 Ok, Esther, ok, ok, ok.
再用力 一直用力 Keep pushing, keep pushing now.
没事的 Ok.
好的 继续 Ok, ok.
现在让我们祈祷 Now let us offer the prayer
基督已经给了我们所有祷告的模范 that Christ has given us as the model of all prayers:
主 矜怜我们 Kyrie Eléison.
主 怜悯我们 Christe Eléison.
主 矜怜我们 Kyrie Eléison.
我们的天父 Pater Noster, qui es in Caelis,
愿你的名受显扬 sanctificetur Nomen Tuum.
愿你的国来临 Adveniat Regnum Tuum.
愿你的旨意奉行在人间 Fiat voluntas Tua,
如同在天上 sicut in Caelo, et in Terra.
求你今天赏给我们 Panem nostrum quotidianum
日用的食粮 da nobis hodie,
求你宽恕我们的罪过 et dimitte nobis debita nostra,
如同我们 sicut et nos dimittimus
宽恕别人一样 debitoribus nostris.
不要让我们陷于诱惑 Et ne nos inducas in tentationem,
但救我们免于凶恶 sed libera nos a malo.
祈祷吧 Let us pray.
教宗说我会成为一名红衣主教 The Pope told me I would become a cardinal.
却没有履行承诺 He didn't keep his promise.
我不知道 I don't know...
这个教宗 This Pope...
我不知道 我真的不知道 I don't know... I don't know...
但我几乎无所不知 But I know so many things...
如果要我说的话 If I were to speak...
我不知道 I don't know...
而现在是时候向你们大家告别了 And now it's time for me to bid you all farewell.
我早就该如此了 I should have done it before,
但圣父把我留在罗马 but the Holy Father kept me in Rome
因此我能继续为新的职责而奋斗 so I could begin work on my new responsibilities.
请原谅 I beg your pardon for
我在九个月后回到这里仅仅是为了与你们道别 only coming back here after nine months to...
又要立刻转身回往罗马 to say goodbye and turn right around and head back to Rome.
但在我动身之前 But before I leave,
我想向你们介绍圣佩德罗苏拉的新主教 I'd like to introduce you to the new bishop of San Pedro Sula,
豪尔赫阿奎罗蒙席 Monsignor Jorge Aguero.
我很了解阿奎罗蒙席 I know Monsignor Aguero very well.
他是位英雄 He's a hero.
在这讲道台上 他会训导你们 From this pulpit he will shout at you
放弃邪恶 反抗黑帮 to forsake evil, to fight against the gangs,
向死亡 to say no to death,
向暴力 to violence
向洪都拉斯的寄生虫 贩毒说不 and the narcotrafficking that infests Honduras.
他不会让犯罪首领领取圣餐 He will refuse to give communion to crime bosses
也不会为他们的女儿主持婚礼 and he will refuse to perform weddings for their daughters.
是的 他会做到一切我没能做到的事 Yes, he will do all the things that I have failed to do.
是的 因为我不是英雄 Yes, because I'm not a hero.
因为 Because...
我畏缩了 I'm afraid.
像你们一样 Like you.
也许这就是你们有一点点喜欢我的原因吧 不是吗 Perhaps that is why you have loved me, just a little. No?
因为我没有让你们感到不舒服 Because I didn't make you uncomfortable.
我从未让你们做出选择 I never asked you to choose.
从未用 I never blackmailed you
要成为好的基督徒 by saying that in order to be good Christians
必须要死在贩毒集团的党羽手下这种话 you had to let yourselves be murdered
敲诈你们 by the henchmen of the drug cartels.
我爱你们原有的样子 I loved you for the way you were...
而不是应有的样子 not for the way you ought to be.
现在告辞了 我要去罗马了 Now I bid you farewell. I'm going to Rome.
但对我来说 那不是家 But that's not going home for me.
我想让你们知道 I want you to know that,
对我而言 as far as I'm concerned,
洪都拉斯是 且永远都是 Honduras is and always will be
我的家 my home.
立正 Attention!
花 Flowers!
这是给婴儿的 This is for the baby.
哦 您不用这么客气 教宗大人 Oh, you shouldn't have, Holy Father.
这是一本属于托马斯·杰斐逊的圣经 It's a Bible that belonged to Thomas Jefferson,
一位美国总统 the President of the United States,
但像新的一样 他从来没有打开过 but it's like new, he never opened it.
我们当然不能责备杰斐逊 We certainly can't blame Jefferson,
圣经不同于阅读消遣 the Bible isn't light reading.
我们给他起的名字是庇护 We named him Pius.
小鸟的名字 A name for a bird.
他会飞的很高 He'll fly high!
您想抱抱他吗 圣座 Do you want to hold him, Your Holiness?
那对我来说真的会是一次不同寻常的经历 That really would be an unusual experience for me.
皮特和我将十分荣幸 And for Peter and I would be an honor.
很高兴见到你小家伙 庇护十四世 Pleasure to make your acquaintance, Mr. Pius XIV.
我们不能记得自己还是婴儿时的味道 It's a pity we can't remember what we smelled like
实为遗憾 when we were babies.
但是我却记得我的父母的味道 I do remember what my parents smelled like.
他长得像你 He takes after you.
但是如果你仔细地看 他也有点像 But if you look closely, he also takes a little...
不 他是个很漂亮的婴儿 No. He's a very good-looking baby.
很像他妈妈 He resembles his mother.
教宗大人 Holy Father.
请原谅我 我真是太蠢了 Forgive me. I'm such a fool.
我的双手只知道如何祝福人们 My hands only know how to bless people.
-没事了 教宗大人 他没事-我真是个蠢货 -It's all right,(holy father) nothing happened. -I'm such an idiot.
我们都要慢慢去习惯新事物 教宗大人 We all have to get used to new things, Holy Father.
-没什么-是的你是对的 皮特 -Nothing happened. -Yes, yes you're right, Peter.
瓦伦特 你要告诉我什么 Valente, was there something you wanted to tell me?
教宗大人 意大利的总理 Holy Father, the Italian Prime Minister
正在梵蒂冈等候您 is waiting for you in the Vatican.
当然了 我差点忘了 Of course, it had slipped my mind.
埃丝特 我得走了 Esther, I must go.
我的头脑要去进行会面了 In my head, I'll be at this audience
但我的心不会离开这里 but in my heart I'll never have left this room.
真是令人惊讶 It's surprising to see how a young woman,
看到一位年轻女人刚刚生完孩子 just moments after having a child,
就这么变成了一位母亲 can be transformed into a mother.
总理先生 请允许我先提醒您关于这位教宗的 Mr. Prime Minister, please allow me to recommend extreme caution
一些事情 with the Pope.
据我了解 The information I've received
比起圣人 他更像是个恶魔 suggests that he's more diabolical than saintly.
很好 他算是棋逢对手了 Excellent! He's finally meeting his match.
主教大人 Eminence!
欢迎您 总理先生 教宗大人已恭候多时 Welcome, Mr. Prime Minister, the Holy Father is expecting you.
-多谢-这边请 -Thanks. -This way please.
-早上好-早上好 -Good morning. -Good morning.
早上好 Good morning.
-早上好-早上好 -Good morning. -Good morning.
我们会迟到的 We'll be late for the audience!
早上好 Good morning.
您睡着了吗 教宗大人 Are you asleep, Holy Father?
不 总理先生 我在为您祈祷 No, Mr. Prime Minister. I'm praying for you,
您真是体贴 That's very thoughtful of you.
非常感谢您相隔九个月 And thanks very much for giving me this audience,
就再次接见我 after just nine months.
我没想到您会治理这个国家这么久 I didn't think you'd be running the Country this long.
于是我对自己说 何苦呢 I said to myself: Why bother?
但我错了 But I was wrong.
那么 我们的意大利最近怎么样啊 Well, how is this Italy of ours doing?
好得多了 多亏了我 Much better, thanks to me.
-您这么认为的-是的 -You think so? -Yes.
我认为恰恰相反 I think just the opposite.
你想做到 好得多 You wanna to do "Much better",
或许你该牢记以下要求 perhaps you should keep firmly in mind this list of requests.
几分钟前我匆忙的记下了这些 I jotted it down in a hurry just a few minutes ago.
如有任何的遗漏 If there's anything I've left off,
我会再加上去 I can certainly add it to the list.
你很快就会收到的 I make sure you receive it promptly.
对天主教家庭加大扶持 Greater assistance to Catholic families,
禁止事实婚姻 no to common law marriages,
禁止同性婚姻 no to gay marriages,
对天主教学校增加拨款 more money to Catholic schools,
提高税收 增加教廷的银行利益 further tax and banking benefits to the Holy See,
严禁任何理由的堕胎 absolute prohibition of abortion in all cases,
严禁任何理由的离婚 absolute prohibition of divorce in all cases,
禁止任何接受安乐死的尝试 no to any temptation to accept euthanasia,
限制宗教信仰自由 restrictions on the religious freedom
尤其是穆斯林教和印度教 of Muslims and Hindus,
有关拉特兰条约的二次讨论 a reopening of discussions on the Lateran Pacts,
1929年由意大利王国与圣座订立 自此承认梵蒂冈城完整主权
重新审视梵蒂冈的领土边界 a full review of the territorial boundaries of the Vatican State.
这最后一项真是颇有建设性 我必须承认 This last request really is remarkable, I have to admit.
我竟然不知道您有扩张的野心 I didn't know that you had expansionistic ambitions.
但是我早就听说 But I was told before
现在这位新教宗很有意思 coming that this new Pope is a very funny man.
但是他们忘了告诉你这个新任教宗 But did they forget to inform you that this new Pope
是一个远比你聪慧的人吗 is a man who's far more intelligent than you?
没有 因为不是这样 No. Because it isn't true.
您知道我和您 Do you know what the
之间的区别吗 教宗大人 difference is between me and you, Holy Father?
说说吧 Let's hear.
区别就是我以41%的选票获胜 The difference is that I was elected with 41% of the votes.
这41%是真实存在的 That 41% exists.
而您是被上帝选择的 You were elected by God.
上帝是否真实存在尚不确定 And it's not a sure thing that God exists.
好吧 Fine!
还有另外一个因素值得您注意 There's another element worthy of your consideration:
万一上帝突然出现 Just in case God does happen to exist,
您知道想要把那41%的选票抹除 do you know how long it would take Him to wipe
要花费多长时间吗 that 41% off the face of the earth?
并且上帝要怎么根除那41% And where will God eradicate that 41%?
在下次选举投票的时候吗 At the polls in the next election?
还是他们在家里看电视的时候 Or in their homes while they're watching TV?
甚至是在他们的睡梦中吗 Or perhaps in their sleep!
在下次选举投票时 At the polls in the next election.
而且 我 作为一名天主教教宗 And what's more: I, as the vicar of Christ,
将乐于帮助上帝消除那41% will be happy to help God eradicating that 41%.
而且你如果还要继续装傻 And if don't stop playing the idiot,
我就不得不向您证明上帝的真实存在了 I'm gonna be forced to prove to you that God does exists.
让我来向您解释清楚 教宗大人-请 Let me explain something to you, Holy Father. -Please.
您的要求在历史的某些时刻 Your demands might have some basis in fact
可能会有可考的基础 at any other point in history.
在历史上教堂曾一度 At a point in history when the Church was stronger
要比现在更为强大 than it is right now,
那时的意大利政治方程会很感激 the Italian political equation would have been obliged
并认真考虑您的请求的 to take your demands under serious consideration.
就像过去那样 The way it always has in the past.
但现在 我们来简析一下您的教宗生涯 圣父 But now let us briefly analyze your Papacy, Holy Father.
在过去的九个月里您一直 In the past nine months you have never shown yourself
都没在信徒面前露面 to the faithful,
您没有在圣彼得广场为进行哪怕一次祷告 you have not recited a single Angelus in St. Peter's Square,
您没有和任何人进行过交流 you have not communicated with anyone,
您只是龟缩在你那小山丘上的宫殿里 you have simply retreated into your palace on the hill
用简短的电报式的公告 and you have threatened and terrorized the faithful,
来威胁和恐吓你的教众 through your terse and telegraphic communiqués
梵蒂冈观察家报如此评价 in L'Osservatore Vaticano,
您根本就是离经叛道逆行倒施 with obscurantist and retrograde theses.
结果就是 The result has been that,
据大量备受重视的研究显示 according to a number of highly respected studies,
意大利的天主教徒已集体对教廷产生了摈弃之感 Italian Catholics have turned away from the Church en masse.
这些新的进展不仅使我可以断然无视你的要求 This new development not only allows me to ignore your requests,
甚至还提供了一个极佳的机会 but it gives me an even greater opportunity:
终于能使意大利更具现代化了 Finally to modernize Italy.
不必惧怕任何报复 Without fear of retaliation or the risk
或失去选票的风险 我也可以重审那千分之八的教会税 of losing support among voters, I can review the colossal fraud
这一极大的欺诈行为 最后对每个教区进行 of the eight per thousand Church tax, finally imposing
惩处性质的增税 并且 最重要的一点 punitive taxes on the dioceses, and, most important of all,
我总算可以把这个国家从政客对自己的选区进行拨款的索求 I can finally free the country from the pork barrels,
种种绊脚石 和罗马天主教会在 stumbling blocks, and vetoes of the Holy Roman Church
安乐死 事实婚姻 同性恋 堕胎 科研这些方面的否决权 in the areas of euthanasia, common law marriages,
以及这所有的一切里解脱出来 gay couples, abortion, scientific research.
长话短说 圣父 To cut a long story short, Holy Father,
多亏了您我才能开启一场革命啊 thanks to you I can start a revolution.
很有说服力 A very persuasive speech.
我很庆幸我们终于开始讲道理了 I'm glad we're finally beginning to talk sense.
有说服力但十分愚蠢 Persuasive and stupid,
就像所有政客的讲话一样 I might add, like every politicians' speech.
而且 不切实际 And what's more, unrealizable.
不切实际 Unrealizable?
走着瞧吧 We shall see about that!
现在 如果你能听进我所讲的话 Now, if you'd care to listen to me,
我会向你证明主的存在 I'll show you that God exists,
还有我和上帝如何去摧毁 and how God and I can annihilate that 41% of the population
使你如此乐观自恋的41% that makes you feel so cheerful and full of yourself.
我可在等着听呢 圣父 I am very eager to hear what you have to say, Holy Father.
我很荣幸 I'm glad.
你想 总理先生 You see, Mr. Prime Minister,
在六十年代 那些年轻人在街上游行抗议 in the Sixties the young people that protested in the streets
嚷嚷着各种异端邪说 但是有一点很好 spouted all kind of heresies, all except one:
打造理想世界的动力 Power to the imagination.
这点 他们是值得赞赏的 In that, they were correct.
唯一的问题是他们根本就没有概念什么样的未来才是光明的 The only problem was they had no imagination.
你也不知道 And neither do you.
但是主和我却十分清楚 But God and I have plenty.
主和我可以说是看的太清了 God and I are simply dripping with imagination.
现在 尽可能的和我来一起想象一些事 Now, just try and imagine something with me:
六个月后 意大利将举行全国大选 In six months, Italy will hold the general elections,
而且你会努力保持住着百分之41选民的支持 and you will try to maintain or increase
或更上一层楼 进一步提高你的支持率 your 41% share of the electorate.
现在的所有事实都预示这 And right now everything indeed
你完全能够维持住这41%的支持率 points to your ability to maintain that 41%.
-当然 -但请你想象一下 -Yeah. -But just imagine,
就在要进行大选的几周前 有消息传出 a few weeks before the election, it comes an announcement.
教宗庇护十三世将进行第一次 Pope Pius XIII has decided to appear in public
公众露面 for the very first time.
对意大利天主教徒进行演说 To talk to the Italian Catholics.
多么病态的好奇心 What morbid curiosity!
整个世界都是好奇得要死 The whole world is dying of curiosity.
一定会是万众瞩目 And it is absolutely to be expected,
这很正常 我们都希望去查探那些隐藏的东西 it's normal, we all want to see that which is hidden,
我们都想去直视那些禁止看的东西 we all want to stare the forbidden in the face.
随着庇护十三世的出现 和他那绝美的蓝色双瞳 Pius XIII appears and so do his beautiful blue-eyes...
柔软圆润之唇 and this soft, round mouth.
多么耀眼夺目的景象 耀眼到使人们目无别物 A dazzling image, so dazzling it blinds people.
换句话说 是一种震撼的 使人浮想联翩的景象 In other words, a powerful, an evocative image,
虽然不会像上帝出现时人们的那种惊诧 not unlike that of Christ.
但是庇护十三世不只是耀眼夺目 But Pius XIII doesn't merely dazzle,
他也能使人安心臣服 he offers reassurance as well.
随后是一场伟大的演说 充满了各种拉丁语的引用 With a magnificent speech, full of quotations in Latin,
告诫这那些信徒 一定不要惧怕 it tells them that they, the faithful, must not be afraid.
而且有着这样一位英俊的教宗以基督之名来抚慰你们 And how could they be afraid, with a Pope as handsome
还有什么值得你们去怕呢 and reassuring as Christ?
最后 就是在大选开始的几周前 Last of all, just a few short weeks before the elections,
教宗说了这样两个词 the Pope says just two words:
不干政 "Non expedit".
-你明白这话意味着什么吗 -不 -Do you know what that means? -No.
你当然不懂 你还太年轻 No, of course you don't. You're far too young.
不干政这一惯例是由庇护九世在1868年第一次提出的 The "Non expedit" Was first issued by Pius IX in 1868.
但在1919年被本笃十五世废止了 It was eliminated by Benedict XV in 1919,
可你猜我会怎样做 but guess what I can do?
我可不对这41%的意大利人负责 What I, who am not answerable to 41% of the Italians,
我只对主负责 并且 主可不会因为我犯了什么错误 but only to God who, by the way, does not express His displeasure
就跑到社交网站上去炮轰我 on social networks if I make a mistake.
可你猜我会怎样做 Guess what I can do?
我会恢复不干政这一惯例 I can restore the "Non expedit".
在场的天主教徒都会赶着去谷歌查这几个词有何深意 The Catholics will all rush to Google those words.
两个词是什么意思呢 What do they mean?
不干政 意味着教宗认为 The "Non expedit" Means that the Holy Father
天主教徒们去为意大利的大选投票 decrees it is unacceptable for Catholics
是不可接受的 to vote in the Italian elections.
还有你知道你进行的 And do you know what the
那些民调揭示出了什么吗 surveys that you have commissioned tell us?
意大利总人口百分之八十七点八的人 They tell us that the number of Italians who identify themselves
都认同自己为天主教徒 as Catholics are 87.8% of the population.
或许你会说 Now you may say to me:
他们可以无视你的指示 They could simply disobey you.
确实可能 True.
也许天主教徒会违背教宗的旨意 But while a Catholic might disobey the Pope,
但他们绝不会违背基督的意愿 they'd never disobey Christ.
我已经是前者了 I'm already the former,
但是请相信我 只要我想 but believe me, if I want to,
我就能使他们认可我是后者 I can have myself accredited as the latter as well,
一旦我这样做了 你就会在大选中失势 and when I do, you'll lose your election.
结局就是这样 Here's how it works:
既然你百分之三十一的选票都是天主教徒投的 Since you get 31% of your votes from the Catholic electorate,
没了他们 你只剩百分之十的支持率 ah, you'd wind up with a mere 10%.
如果我是你的话就不会对这些数据如此确定了 I wouldn't be so sure of those numbers, if I were you.
总理先生啊 Mr. Prime Minister,
请看这镜中的映像 take a look in this mirror.
你看到了什么 What do you see?
是两个年轻人 Two young men.
其中一人还打扮奇怪 One of whom is dressed in a slightly odd style.
我 却看见了两个大新闻 I, on the other hand, see two media events.
其中有一个已经发生了 就是关于你的 One has already taken place, that's you.
另一个即将发生 The other is about to happen.
现在 我已经向你 Now, having set out
陈述证明了上帝是真实存在的 to prove to you the existence of God,
我讲完了 I believe I'm done.
但是既然这样 为什么 But in that case, why...
为什么你还不在公众面前露面呢 why haven't you appeared in public yet?
因为还没这个必要 Because there's still no need.
你说的不完全错 这个教宗就是个魔鬼 You weren't all that wrong: This Pope is diabolical.
早安 Good morning.
这个教宗是位圣人 This Pope is a saint.
在我和圣父见过面后我非常确定这一点 I can say that much after my meeting with the Holy Father.
一个温馨 收获颇丰而又针锋相对的会面 A warm, productive and stimulating meeting.
然而我仍与圣座存在着诸多 Nonetheless, substantial disagreements
根本性的分歧 remain with the Holy See.
尽管教宗仍有疑虑 但意大利政府 The Italian government, despite the Pontiff's misgivings,
还是会继续推动事实婚姻合法化的进程 will continue the efforts to legalize common law marriages,
无论是何种性取向 no matter what the sexual orientation is.
还有 如你们所知 And, as you know,
千分之八的教会税的修订 the revision of the eight per thousand Church tax is approaching
将会成为我们下一次内阁会议的议题 and will be the subject of our next cabinet meeting.
圣父 您愿意让我尽我所能 Holy Father, would you like me to see what I can do
去改进我们和意大利政府的关系么 to mend the relations with the Italian Government?
-他只是在虚张声势 -谁 -He's bluffing. -Who?
那个正在电视上正在口若悬河的年轻人 The young man in a hurry who's speaking on TV right now.
他正在混淆视听 He's selling smoke and mirrors.
他只会光说不做 He won't do a thing he says.
圣父 我读过了那些已被各项委员会 Holy Father, I've read the draft bills
批准了的草法律案 that have already been approved by the various commissions.
那些人是认真的 These people are deadly serious.
这千分之八教会税的留存 The revision of the eight per thousand Church tax
会威胁到意大利主教们的生存问题 would threaten the survival of the Italian bishops.
那又如何呢 Would that be such a bad thing?
关我们什么事 我们俩可是处在教廷之巅 What do we care? You and I are the Holy See.
意大利的主教们能够照顾好自己 The Italian bishops can take care of themselves.
圣父 求您了 这一点都不好笑 Holy Father, I beg you, this is no laughing matter.
放轻松 他就是在吓唬人 Rest easy, he's bluffing.
圣父 相信我 政治意识 Holy Father, believe me, political awareness
是圣座国务卿的基本素养 is an archetypal emotion for the Secretary of State.
对足球狂热也是其中之一吧 Soccer mania is an archetypal emotion for the Secretary of State.
我想让你知道 I want to let you know
我已在一些革新性的事情上下了很多功夫 that I've been working hard on something new.
什么事 On what?
一项新措施 神父禁止赦免那些 A measure forbidding priests from giving absolution
堕过胎的女性的告解 in the confessional to women who have had abortions.
这是一种温和的 带有迷惑性的逐出教会的方式 Its a kind of soft, disguised form of excommunication.
圣父 我们只会发现那些来自全世界的女人 Holy Father, we will wake up and find the women of the world,
由费曼领导 冲进梵蒂冈城墙 led by the Femen, rushing the walls of the Vatican,
费曼: 乌克兰女权团体
手拿锤子 准备搞破坏 hammers in hand, bent on destruction.
好吧 那我们就重建起更高更牢固的城墙 Fine. We'll rebuild those walls, taller and finer.
老套又不可靠的罗夏测试 Old and unreliable Rorschach tests
视对墨渍图案反应而分析其性格的图案
旨在调查 orders to investigate
那些胸怀抱负的神父的过去 intrusively into the past of aspiring priests,
以奖金鼓励年轻男子去诱惑这些神父 young men paid bounties to lure those aspiring priests
使其陷入性取向被揭穿的难堪境地 into compromising sexual situations
很快他们就被从教会清除出去 as soon as they're allowed out into the world.
这就是我今天早上在书桌上 That's what I read in the
读到的东西 directive I found on my desk this morning,
这是某个我在洪都拉斯时 drawn up by who knows what
不知道哪个叛教的下属所起草的 renegade underling while I was in Honduras.
是我起草的 Drawn up by me!
每一位神职候选人都要发出贞洁的誓言 Every candidate for priesthood takes a vow of chastity.
他们的性倾向是无关紧要的 Their sexual predilections are irrelevant.
每个神职候选人都发出了圣洁的誓言 Every candidate for priesthood
但却没有人抱有尊重 takes a vow of chastity and none of them respect them.
正是如此 That's the truth.
那么 我告诉你 不是的 Well, I'm telling you no.
莱尼 这样不行 Lenny, I'm not okay with this.
我没有去寻找我的父母 I didn't go looking for my parents.
相反 我回到了孤儿院 Instead, I went back to the orphanage,
为了和我的朋友安德鲁·杜索里埃在一起 in order to be with my friend Andrew Dussolier,
他是那时的我所拥有的一切 who was all I had left in the world.
那只是一个开始 That was the beginning.
你欠我的 作为一个承认我权威的朋友和神父 You owe me, as a friend, as a man of the cloth
你必须服从我 who acknowledges my authority, you must do what I ask.
你在这啊 桑切斯·安吉洛 Here you are: Sanchez Angelo.
我的上司经过判断认为你不适合 My superiors have determined that you are neither suited for
也不配做一个神父 nor worthy of the priesthood.
在七年内 你被禁止在你出身的教区或者其他地方 You are prohibited from requesting admission to a seminary,
就读于任何神学院 in your home diocese or in any other, for seven years.
为什么 Why?
简单来说 那些性骚扰对你的恶性影响 Put in simpler terms, the sexual disturbances afflicting you
我们无法接受 are unacceptable in terms of our standards.
你想怎么样 What do you want?
您的辞呈 Your resignation.
否则 Otherwise...
我们的命令将威胁到教会内的分裂 our order will threaten a schism.
分裂 A schism?
那就试试 Just try it.
我将夺走你们的一切 I'll strip you of all you have.
一切 Everything.
你的床 你的袍子 你的内裤 Your beds, your tunics, your underpants,
你们在地球上最美丽的地方 all those wonderful monasteries you have in the most wonderful,
拥有的最精美壮丽的修道院 loveliest places on earth.
因为那都是我的 Because all that belongs to me.
准备好露宿街头了么 就像阿西西的圣弗朗西斯一样 Are you ready to live on the street? Like St. Francis of Assisi?
圣弗朗西斯: 19世纪意大利道士 长期生活在阿西西岛的森林中
准备好睡在地上 Are you ready to sleep on the ground,
等着那些酒鬼和流浪汉在垃圾堆中对你拳打脚踢了么 kicked and spat upon by junkies, and homeless people, and drunks?
我准备好对你们发动一场无休止的战争 I'm ready to wage a war without end against you.
你准备好发动一场 Are you ready to wage that war,
赤手空拳的战争了么 armed with nothing but bottomless poverty?
我不这么认为 I don't think so.
即然这样 就别胡说八道了 And in that case, stop talking bullshit
赶紧去买几双鞋 and get yourselves some shoes,
这里的空气简直无法呼吸 because the air in here is unbreathable.
安吉洛 沃伊洛 Angelo Voiello?
天啊 Oh, Jesus!
谁派你来的 庇护十三么 Who sent you? Pius XIII?
不是的 是那个叫拉斐尔·埃斯波西脱的审判官 No, Raffaele Esposito, the magistrate.
贝基队长在这里 Captain Becchi is here and
他想问你一些问题 he would like to ask you a few questions.
我也很乐意回答他 And I'll be happy to provide him with some answers.
这是给你的 This is for you.
好好读 Read it!
你有什么推荐吗 What do you recommend?
安托内洛神父的《一个渺小而伟大的灵魂》写的很好 Father Antonello did a great job with "A Great Little Soul",
利利阿纳的《一个人》写的也不错 So did Liliana with "A Man"...
我想要《在安吉洛·沃伊洛领导下的1001个不朽之名》 I'll take "1001 Illustrious Names Blackmailed by Angelo Voiello."
坐在那儿 您只能坐在那儿 There, only there.
我能要一些蔗糖吗 May I have some cane sugar?
上尉 我们这儿不提供蔗糖 We don't have any cane sugar, Captain.
主教大人 您知道我为什么要到这来吗 Eminence, do you have any idea why I'm here?
罗马中心饭店的主人 The owner of the "Er Core de Roma" Restaurant
一定向您抱怨了我 must have filed a complaint against me.
上周他声称马拉多纳仍在吸毒 Last week he claimed that Maradona is still on drugs,
我也的确痛斥了他 and I really lashed out at him.
你这混蛋 你怎么敢 "You ugly shit, don't you dare"
再次不将神的名字放在眼里 take the Lord's name in vain again."
不 主教大人 No, Your Eminence,
我们到这儿来是为了托尼诺·皮托拉 您听说过他吗 we're here about Tonino Pettola. Do you know him?
-谁 -托尼诺·皮托拉 -Who? -Tonino Pettola.
是的 当然 他可是声名在外 Ah, yes. Of course, I know his reputation,
更正一下 是污名在外 a lousy reputation, let me add.
他可是一个臭名昭著的骗子 He's a notorious con artist who claims he can pick out
声称自己能在羊群中间找出圣母玛利亚 the Blessed Virgin Mary amid his flock of sheep.
封圣会众已经多次有力地 The Congregation for the Causes of Saints has repeatedly
拒绝了他的申请 and vehemently rejected his applications.
您曾私下见过他吗 Have you ever met him personally?
没有 Never.
皮托拉的亲友可不是这么说的 Pettola's relatives claim the exact opposite.
他们说托尼诺·皮托拉 They say that Tonino Pettola,
几个月前的一个晚上 在他家 one evening a few months ago, in his home
见到了你 教宗和其他的主教 met with you, the Pope and other Cardinals.
从那时起他就好像被这次会面吓傻了 From that moment on he seemed shocked
因为他们说 and obsessed with your meeting because they say
你们恐吓他要把他丢到流沙里面去 that you threatened to throw him in quicksand.
你难道觉得这话可信吗 上尉 Does it strike you as plausible, Captain,
红衣主教们 圣座国务卿和教宗 that the Cardinals, the Secretary of State and the Pope
会一起去托尼诺·皮托拉家 would all go to Tonino Pettola's house
还恐吓要把他丢到流沙里去 and threaten to throw him in quicksand?
听起来确实很奇怪 但并不是不可能 It does seem strange but not implausible.
阁下何出此言 托尼诺·皮托拉怎么了 Why? What happened to Tonino Pettola?
他失踪了 He disappeared.
他的亲友们声称他被梵蒂冈的 His relatives claim he was being persecuted
高层人员所迫害 by persons high up in the Vatican.
你真的认为我们会把我们的时间浪费在一个穷疯了的人身上吗 Do you really think we'd waste our time on a poor raving lunatic?
那个贫穷的人在世界各地都有追随者 That poor man had followers all around the world
并且正准备建立他自己的教堂 and was about to found his own Church.
上尉 他并不是独一个 He's not the only one, Captain.
每天都会冒出两个疯子 At least two crazies pop up every day.
如果梵蒂冈恐吓迫害他们所有的人 If the Vatican were to persecute and threaten them all,
我们恐怕没有时间去做别的事了 it wouldn't have time to do anything else.
通话记录显示梵蒂冈城内有人给皮托拉 Phone records reveal that numerous calls from inside the Vatican
打了无数个电话 were made to Pettola.
这我相信 I believe it.
人们总是在梵蒂冈给别人打电话 People are always making calls from the Vatican.
为了遏制这种浪费行为我已经努力了多年 I've been fighting for years against such wasteful behavior.
主教大人 浪费并不是重点 Waste is not the point, Your Eminence.
您不认为这很矛盾吗 Don't you think it's a contradiction?
如果皮托拉真是一个无足轻重的人 If Pettola was an insignificant artist
你对他也不感兴趣 这些电话又怎么解释 and you had no interest in him, why all the phone calls?
封圣的会众们 The Congregation for the
尽己所能去联系他 Causes of Saints was in contact with him,
是为了核实他的紧急需要 doing their best to check his urgent demands.
不仅是来自 The calls not only came
封圣的会众们的电话 from the Congregation for the Causes of Saints
也有来自主教大人您的办公室和教宗办公室的电话 but also from Your Eminence's offices and from the Pope's.
在国务卿和教宗的办公室里 In the Secretary of State and the Pope's offices
一共有250个员工 there are about 250 employees.
我不排除有人因个人原因 I can't rule out that someone might have had a reason
给托尼诺·皮托拉打电话 to call Tonino Pettola.
可能有人相信他的谎言 Perhaps someone that
想见见他 believed all his fibs and wanted to meet him.
你知道 托尼诺·皮托拉可能在哪儿吗 Do you have any idea where Tonino Pettola might be?
他可能在某个遥远的修道院中祈祷忏悔 He's probably in some far-flung monastery praying and repenting.
主教大人 您似乎对任何问题都能做出回答 You have an answer for everything, Eminence.
上尉 职业使然 That's my job, Captain.
-我听说了同样的事情 -什么事 上尉 -I've heard the same thing. -What, Captain?
马拉多纳仍在吸毒 That Maradona is still doing drugs.
一个朋友告诉我的 A friend of mine told me.
他在迪拜的智能安居点 He's in intelligence and stationed in Dubai.
上尉 为什么要伤害我 为什么 Why do you want to hurt me, Captain? Why?
主教大人 因为我是国米球迷 Because I'm a fan of Inter, Your Eminence.
红衣主教 杜索里埃 我知道您 但是您一定没听说过我 Cardinal Dussolier, I know you, but you don't know me.
我是伯爵夫人 爱玛·梅拉维利亚 上将梅拉维利亚的妻子 I'm Contessa Emma Meraviglia, the wife of General Meraviglia.
晚上好 Good evening.
你知道 我不喜欢单独和你见面 You know, I don't like seeing you all on your own.
夫人 我习惯了 I'm accustomed to it, signora.
那可不是个好习惯 That's a bad custom to get into.
我的女友们会争着来陪伴你 My girlfriends would compete to keep you company.
我也会的 And so would I.
不管怎样 周四我丈夫和我将在别墅 In any case, my husband and I will be hosting a party
举办一个宴会 Thursday at our villa.
如果您有时间 务必要来 If you're at loose ends, please come.
我丈夫和我会感到非常荣幸 It would be an honor for my husband and me.
好的 谢谢你的邀请 我会记住的 Ok, thank you. I'll keep it in mind.
拜 Bye.
我是安吉洛·桑切斯 My name is Angelo Sanchez.
我出生于阿里坎特的一个手工劳动者家庭 I was born in Alicante into a family of manual laborers
我不是同性恋 and I am not a homosexual.
我只有一个简单的梦想 侍奉上帝 I had such a simple dream: To serve God.
你谋杀了我的梦想 You murdered my dream.
你只是一个可怜的 You are nothing more than a pathetic,
悲惨的 胆小的凶手 miserable, cowardly murderer.
我本可以成为最完美的神父 I could have been an excellent priest.
是啊 你本可以成为最完美的神父 Yeah, you could have.
我想回家 I want to go home.
家对您意味着什么 What do you mean, home?
我们都是孤儿 We're both orphans.
-你也是 -我也是 -You too? -Me too.
在我只有三岁的时候 我就被我父母遗弃了 I was abandoned by my parents when I was just three years old.
孩子们在三岁的时候该是多可爱啊 Children are so lovely when they are three years of age.
怎么会有人忍心遗弃三岁的孩子 How can anyone abandon a three year old?
你是从哪儿得到的勇气 Where do you find the nerve?
我从来不知道你也是孤儿 I never knew you were an orphan, too.
现在您知道了 Well... now you know.
-莱尼知道吗 -不知道 -Does Lenny know? -No.
他永远都不会知道的 And he never will.
为什么他不会知道 Why not?
因为您安心于教宗的分内之事 Because you don't steal the stage from the Pope.
您也不会干涉他的悲伤 And you don't interfere with his sorrow.